Latest WACUP public preview for x86 & x64 is build #25464 (November 6th 2026) (x86 & x64 changelogs)
Latest restricted WACUP beta release is build #25464 (November 6th 2026) (x86 & x64 changelogs)

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If installing the 32-bit / x86 build of wacup (i.e. the version from https://getwacup.com/preview/) & don't change the install settings then you should already be getting the winamp modern skin as long as the installer is able to pull down the skin files needed & either having chosen it from the skin selection prompt on the first install of wacup or by going to the skins submenu or skins preference page to select it.

If you installed the 64-bit / x64 build of wacup then per the notes on the download page & in the installer it can only support classic / 2.x style skins (which is what the left part of the screenshot looks like with it being the 'classified' version of the winamp modern skin (on the right). This is where you need to use the 32-bit / x86 build of wacup & just getting & running it's installer should get what's needed without having to uninstall as they can share the same settings folder to avoid losing anything that might've already been done (e.g. local library imports &/or custom metadata having been entered into it).



As for the sizing of things, wacup tells Windows to not try to apply dpi scaling so if using a classic / 2.x style of skin then you've got 1x/2x/3x scaling modes. If using a modern / winamp3 style of skin (as the shown 'winamp modern' skin falls under) then you can change the window scaling either from the main right-click -> window settings -> scaling menu or by going to preferences -> skins -> modern skins & changing the scaling option from there.



The final thing about dual instances & things going to a different one, firstly you can run multiple wacup instances using the new instance (via ctrl+alt+n) option & following the prompt to make it duplicate the settings folder to allow for a better dual instance setup.

If you do want to run wacup + winamp at the same time then you're going to have to change the window class that wacup reports for plug-in / external tool compatibility to be different from what winamp reports so the running winamp instance isn't then going to know about the wacup one.

That can be changed by going to preferences -> advanced -> portable mode -> use the open paths.ini editor, change the 'wacup winamp classname' to something (e.g. WACUP not Winamp), save & then restart the wacup instance. That will then make the winamp instance not find the wacup instance & hand off things to whatever is found to be the first 'winamp' instance which is how external file loading works when the option to prevent multiple instances in either program is enabled. It can alternatively be done via wacup command-line options when applied to the shortcut used to start it which is also something that can be used to run dual wacup instances against different settings folders without having to manually do the new instance action mentioned earlier.

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I appreciate reporting the issue though I'm going to admit that I didn't read most of what was posted but trying to use plug-ins from older builds of wacup with newer ones often is not going to work due to internal api changes in the years between the builds (I don't do like winamp so I can change things).

I instead mainly just made use of the provided example file to resolve pausing not working (2 issues led to it) & seeking not behaving due to it not correctly syncing to the start of the adts-aac frames correctly which the aac decoder would reject especially if doing a seek during playback starting.

The next build will have what is now working for me with the provided example file & a few others I'd used previously for adding the support sans in_mp3 handling things.

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Preview Build Discussion / Re: nsv video playback for x86
« on: November 04, 2026, 03:41:24 PM »
Sort of is the simple answer. 1.99.36.22278 is the last build that attempted to install & apply the patches needed on the various files from the 5.666 installer (i.e. a build from over a year ago which isn't supported at this point) along with when it is installed it'll usually be set to be disabled by default which can be changed via preferences -> plug-ins -> input if in_nsv is in the plug-in list.

The problem is that the recent installers remove some of those files even if the intent from the user side is to keep them around along with me doing no testing against in_nsv as I either rely on the directshow filters for local files or I'm ok with the audio-only playback of the streams that my in_url plug-in provides.

The simplest option vs trying to piece files together & missing on them being patched as needed would be for me to not remove the files the installer is removing & change how the plug-in is flagged as not to be loaded by default to avoid the problems I was having with in_nsv that led to it being removed. That would then allow installing 1.99.36.22278 & then installing the next preview build back over it & if needed manually enabling in_nsv (since the core still has the handling to enable the other dlls it needs) vs the handling that is now in place per the prior paragraph). Or use an old build that supports it & hope the build picked behaves.

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General Discussion / Re: [FIXED] Bug - Some streams plays extremely slow
« on: November 04, 2026, 02:54:57 PM »
It isn't reporting the expected header information which is the first part of the problem & it's then doing like the previous ones that weren't behaving where there's a mismatch of mono & stereo data according to what the aac decoder is reporting back. It looks like that one after the first few audio frames plays as mono so I've got a check in place for that type of behaviour which looks like it'll work without causing the other streams to break.

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Visualisations / Re: Lost Media AVS
« on: October 26, 2026, 09:31:34 PM »
It's just that time of the year where the prior year's "oh I forgot to pay it again' payment is up for the vBulletin hosting. As for the other aspect, it's not the OP's fault what is or isn't going on when it comes to spam on that forum nor how some mods are too ban happy vs maybe applying some nuance but hey they can do whatever they want with that forum as I'll do with what I'm providing.

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Ok, that's useful to know it confirms what the issue appeared to be. The newer preview build which should resolve the problem with sending titles has been up for a few days so if you need the titles being sent then I'd suggest getting that or just leaving the feature off even if you update to the newer build if you've found you don't need that being sent.

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General Discussion / Re: [FIXED] Bug - Some streams plays extremely slow
« on: October 26, 2026, 09:57:33 AM »
Ok, thanks for letting me know it's ok now for you.

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Preview Build Discussion / Re: Feedback on 1_99_56_25346
« on: October 25, 2026, 03:50:19 PM »
Not sure why streaming would be so much faster to start as little has directly changed with in_url in the last few builds so it might be something to do with the libcurl update that changed how things are able to get going maybe, dunno. At least it's playing ok & hopefully you're using the post-release updated version of that plug-in to improve stream playability.

AVS is just a mess & there's little I'm going to do about that. From a quick test the windowed mode worked (tested under a classic skin) until the plug-in crashed (as it does by it's very nature). Fullscreen won't work & that's been broken since Vista which isn't a wacup induced issue.

The re-used portables plug-ins from 5.666 need to be dropped sooner rather than later as they don't work well (i.e. crashing) due to assumptions made about the runtime they'd be used under (which is just not worth my time trying to live patch). The intent was to implement something that'll handle ipods (potentially based on ml_ipod) along with normal file transfer / mtp but I don't have the interest at the moment to be working on such things as it's not something I actively need because I just stay at home & don't listen to devices on the go. It's however something I'm going to have to get around to doing as I'm getting tired of the ml_pmp/pmp_* related crashes seen.

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I cannot replicate it with the post-release updates applied against the current build 25346 per the instructions on how to get it from my initial reply.

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You go to the media library window -> library button -> import -> import legacy (external) local library database -> change the folder browser to be the location of a different wacup install settings folder or where you've got a backup of the wacup local library db files to import (i.e. having made copies of the library.dat/library.idx or the older main.dat/main.idx from an old wacup or winamp install) & as long as it finds what it's looking for then the import action will be enabled. If it doesn't enable the import button then it's not finding what's needed. That's all that there is for getting all of the metadata from an existing local library instance until I get around to adding a csv import mode.

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General Discussion / Re: Bug - Some streams plays extremely slow
« on: October 23, 2026, 05:37:42 PM »
The new in_url plug-in has now been put up as a post-release update for the 25346 build which should make that stream play correctly along with a fix for shoutcast style stream metadata not being handled correctly if it's too long which should resolve a number of streams previously not being able to play or would briefly play & then it'd end up doing nothing due to it not correctly adjusting the output buffers.

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Preview Build Discussion / Re: Thanks, Feedback, Issues
« on: October 23, 2026, 01:19:17 PM »
With the on top aspect that's not the default behaviour & I'd go to the main right-click menu -> options -> un-check the "always on top" option if it's checked (or you can try using the Ctrl+A shortcut to toggle it - it depends on what part of the skin is focused as to how that works or not).

With the other part, the first one is to go to Preferences -> Appearance has some options for changing the font for what's seen within the media library & playlist editor windows (irrespective of the skin type being used) along with the Ctrl+NumPad Plus/Numpad Minus to bump the font size without having to go into the preferences. That's assuming the size of the text isn't right for what's wanted.

Secondly due to you using a modern style skin (as the Bento skins fall under), either go to main right-click menu -> window settings -> scaling or preferences -> skins -> modern skins -> window settings tab & then change the scaling of the outer ui elements of the skin.

Between both of them you should hopefully get something that works. I'd also advise against trying to manually force the OS to do the scaling of things on the process since that can & will break what's going on especially with the modern skin window handling which doesn't like the OS forced scaling modes from what I've seen.

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The local library plug-in currently only supports importing supported files / playlists / folders / existing local library db file imports. If you don't have the existing local library db to use (typically in the settings folder of a prior wacup install) then any custom metadata from it isn't going to be able to be re-added via the other options that otherwise exist for import.

At some point I need to add a means to support importing the exported csv file that the export action is able to generate which would then fill the gap that exists from not having an equivalent to what winamp did with it's xml based import / export feature.

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General Discussion / Re: Bug - Folding isn't working anymore
« on: October 23, 2026, 12:23:27 PM »
Changing the windowshaded mode hasn't affected other windows for quite sometime (am already aware of this complaint) but I don't plan on making any immediate changes to get it back as I don't want to re-work the classic skin window docking code at this time (it's a mess which is going to be more involved than just trying to get this winamp-like aspect working again). If that means you need to stay on what's an old effectively unsupported build then that's what you'll have to do.

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General Discussion / Re: Bug - Some streams plays extremely slow
« on: October 23, 2026, 12:19:04 PM »
Testing with the current 1.99.56.25346 build there's a small mismatch between what the stream is reporting as it's channel count from the connection header vs what the aac decoder is reporting with some of the initial frames. That's causing it to do some output setup based on it being a stereo stream whereas those initial frames are making it treat things as mono which is why the playback rate isn't correct for it.

I need to do a bit more testing but I'm planning on providing a post-release update for the in_url plug-in which should resolve this problem (it'll either appear as an OS toast prompt or can be manually triggered via Preferences -> About|Updates -> About tab once it's available).

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