[CHANGES MADE] Not So Neo Output Mixer & 24-bit

[DJay]

Does "Not So Neo Output Mixer" support 24-bit?
In my experience, it doesn't... I have crackling on 24-bit WAV/FLAC.

[dro]

x86 or x64 & what build is it? So far I can't replicate this but then I also couldn't replicate such reports of direct output with the x64 build having such issues & afaict that was resolved a few builds back from this year (based on no one having commented to report it still happening). If it's the x86 build then maybe it's a dsp or config setting that's messing with things otherwise I don't have any obvious ideas.

[DJay]

Sorry for the delay. I was trying to figure out what the problem was, and as it turns out, it's not just 24-bit. I'm getting crackling on various tracks at different bit resolutions and sample rates. It looks like overdrive, and I figured out that simply changing the master gain to -0.1 dB is enough to fix everything. I'll just add that all the settings are default: DRC, AGC, etc., are OFF, and all levels are at 0 dB.
I've tested it on various outputs—Direct, Wavey, YASAPI—and it's the same everywhere. No problem bypassing the mixer. No crackling.
That's one thing, but more importantly, what happened today immediately after updating to 23234: no signal on the SL/SR mixer output. It's impossible to set the output to 2/2 - quadro. After closing preferences and re-entering, the setting reverts to AS IS (no change) 
x86, build 23234 from today.

[dro]

I can't replicate it sounding wrong as you've noted but the fixes that were made to deal with it outputting wrongly when the input details have changed is seemingly overriding the hack that was already in place to force the output mode so I've screwed that plug-in up even more than it already was, wonderful. You'll have to roll back to a build that worked for you.

[dro]

There's now post release patches for 23234 & the newer out_neo that's part of it should behave correctly for the channel output setting once it's been reselected to what's wanted.

[DJay]

I was just about to write that I'll wait until the next build in hopes that it will be fixed. 
Thanks, it works.

[DJay]

However, from my observations, there seems to be some dark magic that wasn't there before.
First, all FLAC files are detected as 24-bit in the input format if Playback > Allow 24-bit is cheecked. For example, WAV files are detected as 16-bit if they're 16-bit, and PCM24 if they're 24-bit. The user setting from the drop-down list works the opposite way. Selecting 16-bit sets 32-bit, and selecting 32-bit sets 16-bit. 24-bit works fine.
Let's say we set the output format to 24-bit, but when we play something like an MP3, the setting changes to 16-bit and remains there even when the next track is FLAC, which is actually 24-bit. You have to manually set 24-bit each time.

[dro]

The bitdepth setting hasn't ever really worked as a fixed setting from the originally forked plug-in so I'll need to look at adding an as-is option to match the channel & sample rate handling. At least those other options with the as-is mode seem to be working ok now unlike before.

[dro]

The changes I've just finished doing to out_neo & have now put up as another post-release update for it should allow the bitdepth to be specifically set or left in an as-is mode hopefully without breaking anything else though there's a possibility it might require having to do a bit of re-configuration to get things to follow what's wanted.

[DJay]

Just updated. For now, everything looks good, but the bit depth setting to "AS IS" only stays until we play a FLAC track, then it changes to 24bit, and even if we play an MP3 later, it changes to 16bit. I don't know if that's how it's supposed to be. I look at the behavior of the sampling frequency setting, set to "AS IS" it remains as such all the time.

[dro]

It's not meant to be changing the drop down with as-is selected & I spent an age trying to have it act like the other as-is options so it wouldn't do what you've described its doing so something is still broken somewhere *meh*

I was also under the impression you wanted it to be set to a fixed bit depth for the output which from other feedback seemingly is working so I'm not going to prioritise doing more on the as-is mode & tbqh I'm fed up of trying to change that plug-in as it's just not fun to work on.

[DJay]

Leave it, maybe you'll come back to it someday