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Title: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Denis on November 11, 2020, 09:05:24 PM
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Last updated: November 22nd 2021 with v2.0
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: victhor on November 12, 2020, 02:15:01 AM
Wow! Looks nice! I've almost forgotten how it felt to find a new skin out of the blue.. I'm getting anxious now, why the time frame?? XD
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Abhijit A on November 12, 2020, 03:24:05 AM
A surprising pleasant news to see new skin announcement. looking forward to the release
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Denis on November 12, 2020, 04:07:12 AM
Wow! Looks nice! I've almost forgotten how it felt to find a new skin out of the blue.. I'm getting anxious now, why the time frame?? XD

I set myself a deadline)))
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Eris Lund on November 12, 2020, 04:07:57 PM
A true delight to see other people than me, Victhor and Mirzi creating something new (nothing against you), am excited to test it!
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: victhor on November 13, 2020, 04:39:05 AM
Wow! Looks nice! I've almost forgotten how it felt to find a new skin out of the blue.. I'm getting anxious now, why the time frame?? XD

I set myself a deadline)))


OK, sounds fair, but if you don't make it, don't worry, just release it under a beta tag and we'll see from there.. ;)
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Denis on November 14, 2020, 12:42:21 PM
Google drive:  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CLhymbGAedviECVGZU7bqZHe4BJJzqLg/view?usp=sharing


Download from site:  https://severm.kz/winamp-defix-hi-end/

done!

However, I am going to add some more features.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: victhor on November 14, 2020, 02:30:28 PM
First of all...

(https://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Leonardo-DiCaprio-Clap.gif)
Well done!! I liked the skin, a lot! Some new bits here and there, I know a lot of skins and can tell what is from where, but I liked how you took the elements from other skins and use / transform it with a specific intention, that denotes good taste and hard work.
There are some bits to improved here and there, but they are mostly small stuff. The only one thing I see that needs to be fix is that you didn't include the source scripts, it's good practise to share it along the release files (even mandatory in the case of the scripts of my skins). Are you planning on sharing it at some point?

Really looking forward to the next build (I bet more color themes are on the plate, right?). Keep up the hard work!!

PS: Extra points for not asking even a single question about the scripts / files / etc.. where did you get the skinning expertise?? This is your first skin?
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Eris Lund on November 14, 2020, 03:56:57 PM
Hats off to you for coming up with something so new and so great, in 2020 even!
It's really impressive what you've done here and I hope you share the scripts with us, because this is really incredible.
The two infoboxes option for the playlist is what most intrigues me and the way you display the album art of the next song, how'd you do that?! This is great!!!

The Skin Settings window is also really well done and what impresses me the most is switching out the background image amongst other things.

Keep up the great work, I'm excited to see what comes next!
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Abhijit A on November 14, 2020, 04:01:18 PM
Nice skin, I like the way you have thought of smaller/finer details & implemented them. Also providing power button to close is beautiful.  Giving credits to original skin developer is a good practice & needed, you have not forgotten that. +1 point for it.

really great efforts, even I have a question as rightly said by Victhor; where you learnt skin scripting. I have not seen you asking any questions regarding skin development, or are you an old timer just started on.

keep skinning...
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Denis on November 15, 2020, 10:31:15 AM
Thank you for your kind words. Now, I'll try to answer all your questions.

As for the scripts, I've written them by a method of trial and error. That's why the scripts are now scattered across different folders and some were even lost). I will definitely upload them as soon as I organize them.

I've been writing my scrips on the basis of the Bento folder' s source.( WaSDP_1.14)


First, I am going to add more colour themes and improve new variants of display.

Finally, the most important part is to add visualization on the same page with video in the SUI window.

I will also create a version for WACUP.





Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Aminifu on November 15, 2020, 05:37:41 PM
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I will also create a version for WACUP.

Thank you for this skin. I've been using it with WACUP without any problems. The only thing I request along with the updates you have planned is a notification window. Many skins provide this pop-up that momentarily displays info on a file (including it's album art) as it starts playing and the app's playback status when playback is paused or stopped and when the end of the playlist is reached.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Denis on November 15, 2020, 09:30:38 PM
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I will also create a version for WACUP.

Thank you for this skin. I've been using it with WACUP without any problems. The only thing I request along with the updates you have planned is a notification window. Many skins provide this pop-up that momentarily displays info on a file (including it's album art) as it starts playing and the app's playback status when playback is paused or stopped and when the end of the playlist is reached.

😅 Thank you for the remark. I' ve forgotten about the Notification. I will definitely add this feature soon.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Denis on November 16, 2020, 05:02:12 AM
List of skins that I used: Big Bento, Big Bento Modern, Winamp Modern, AS_Fx21_EVO, WMP11 BlueVU,  Anaheim Player 01.

I would be glad to receive your comments about scripts.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: victhor on November 17, 2020, 05:50:56 PM
List of skins that I used: Big Bento, Big Bento Modern, Winamp Modern, AS_Fx21_EVO, WMP11 BlueVU,  Anaheim Player 01.

I would be glad to receive your comments about scripts.

Great! I'll take a deeper look later and check if there's any unnecessary code or leftover to make the scripts tidier / more direct (modding can get quite messy in time, I know).
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: victhor on January 08, 2021, 10:21:45 PM
Looking forward to the update... XD
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: ariszlo on April 22, 2021, 11:45:56 AM
I have just downloaded it. It looks good but it is a bit small on my laptop with a 1920x1080 screen resolution on a 13.3 inch display. At 150%, the size is okay but the graphics is blurred.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Denis on July 13, 2021, 11:27:38 PM
Version 1.5.0
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: victhor on July 13, 2021, 11:32:37 PM
Gotcha!! I'll try this version before everyone else mwahahahaa ;) =)
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Denis on July 14, 2021, 12:32:30 AM
Gotcha!! I'll try this version before everyone else mwahahahaa ;) =)
;D ;D ;D

Actually. There are no major changes.

Added a notification. Added backgrounds, stickers and color themes. I also fixed a few minor bugs.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: victhor on July 14, 2021, 01:27:47 AM
I see, I've cycled between all of them, nice to know you're still working on it though 💪
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Aminifu on July 14, 2021, 05:21:10 AM
Thank you Denis for adding the notification panel. It works very well.

I would like you to consider adding 2 more capabilities.

1. An x-offset adjustment and y-offset adjustment to allow for adjusting the default positions of the panel.

2. 3 variable time adjustments for the seconds taken to fade in, hold, and fade out the panel.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Denis on July 14, 2021, 10:58:41 AM
I have just downloaded it. It looks good but it is a bit small on my laptop with a 1920x1080 screen resolution on a 13.3 inch display. At 150%, the size is okay but the graphics is blurred.
I created this skin in order to watch music videos. I had to sacrifice the size of the main window to make the video window larger.
Thank you Denis for adding the notification panel. It works very well.

I would like you to consider adding 2 more capabilities.

1. An x-offset adjustment and y-offset adjustment to allow for adjusting the default positions of the panel.

2. 3 variable time adjustments for the seconds taken to fade in, hold, and fade out the panel.

I will try to implement these functions. But now I'm working on a new skin. :)
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Aminifu on July 15, 2021, 12:16:24 AM
I will try to implement these functions. But now I'm working on a new skin. :)

Thank you. Good luck on your new project.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Denis on August 04, 2021, 03:54:46 PM
Version 1.5.5

Song Timer (used script by Eris Lund).
Fixed cosmetic defects.
Added standard frame.

Moved design to Izotope Ozone plugin. Replaced only textures and colors. Plugin not cracked.



Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Aminifu on August 05, 2021, 12:38:25 AM
...

Moved design to Izotope Ozone plugin. Replaced only textures and colors. Plugin not cracked.

I'm very excited that you're working on bringing Izotope Ozone back. I used it back in the 1990s until the free version was dropped. It took me awhile to find a suitable replacement. I'm now using the free version of Stereo Tool.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Aminifu on September 04, 2021, 11:00:40 PM
Hi Denis,

I'm having a couple issues with the main player window that contains the analog VU meter. When the next song in the playlist starts, the song length timer switches from time remaining mode to time elapsed mode. Also the song's encoding information goes away.

If I stop and restart the song, the timer switches back to time remaining mode but the song's encoding information is still not displayed.

The main player window with the digital VU meter also switches timer mode when the next song starts, but the encoding information is maintained. Just like the other view, if I stop and restart the song, the timer switches back to time remaining mode.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Denis on September 05, 2021, 12:22:49 AM
Hi Denis,

I'm having a couple issues with the main player window that contains the analog VU meter. When the next song in the playlist starts, the song length timer switches from time remaining mode to time elapsed mode. Also the song's encoding information goes away.

If I stop and restart the song, the timer switches back to time remaining mode but the song's encoding information is still not displayed.

The main player window with the digital VU meter also switches timer mode when the next song starts, but the encoding information is maintained. Just like the other view, if I stop and restart the song, the timer switches back to time remaining mode.
You are really using this skin, great. Here is the latest beta version, I am just working on the timer and maybe in this version the bug has already been fixed.

To switch between the elapsed and the remaining time of the track, you need to call the menu by right-clicking on the timer.

Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Denis on September 05, 2021, 09:07:23 AM
Thank you Denis for adding the notification panel. It works very well.

I would like you to consider adding 2 more capabilities.

1. An x-offset adjustment and y-offset adjustment to allow for adjusting the default positions of the panel.

2. 3 variable time adjustments for the seconds taken to fade in, hold, and fade out the panel.
And for what purposes do you need to change the indentation of the notification? I ask in order to know within what limits to make the "tuning sliders".
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Denis on September 05, 2021, 09:13:13 AM
...

Moved design to Izotope Ozone plugin. Replaced only textures and colors. Plugin not cracked.

I'm very excited that you're working on bringing Izotope Ozone back. I used it back in the 1990s until the free version was dropped. It took me awhile to find a suitable replacement. I'm now using the free version of Stereo Tool.
Thanks for telling me about the Stereo Tool, this is a really great plugin, although at first it seemed difficult to me due to the large number of settings.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Aminifu on September 05, 2021, 10:55:16 AM
Hi Denis,

The placement of the notification pop-up is purely a matter of personal preference. I like it near the top middle of the display screen. Of course you as the designer are free to put it where-ever you want and allow for adjustment of the position or not. Some of the other modern skins I use default to the top left corner and allow enough pixels to be added to the x and y coordinates so that the pop-up could end up in the bottom right corner (or almost anywhere) . The default Winamp modern skin placed it in the bottom right corner (with no way to move it). Being able to move the current top middle position a little further down and to the left would be nice for me (since the pop-up expands or shrinks depending on the info displayed), but the current position is good enough. Being able to move it a little further from the corners might be useful for others. Some notification pop-ups are a fixed size and truncate info that doesn't fit. I like the way yours works much better.

Stereo Tool is a great sound enhancer. But it does have a 'ton' of options. It took me weeks to finally get it setup the way I liked.  Something that works well across the various genres I listen to. I also have a few setups (presets) tailored for specific cases. It's kind of hard to find one group of settings for everything. My goal was to clearly hear everything (vocal and instruments) even at low volumes. I've found that small adjustments work better than large ones.  Make a change and listen for awhile (2 or 3 songs) to give your ears time to adapt. Then decide if you need more or less of the adjustment. You can also get presets from the Stereo Tool forum to try.  :)

As for the latest version of your skin, you've made some great additions, imo. The 2 analog VU meters view is a nice one, even though it doesn't really show the bass and treble variations in a song. I like the single analog VU meter view. The bitrate and file format info now updates correctly when the song changes. I also discovered something related to the timer mode reverting to time elapsed with each song change. The classic skins in my collection were set to show elapsed time. When I changed them to show time remaining, your skin also stayed in time remaining mode. I don't know why the classic skin setting affects your modern skin this way. The other modern skins I use don't care what the classic skin settings are. All classic skins use the same set of settings. Modern skins usually can be setup individually.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Aminifu on September 07, 2021, 12:55:39 AM
I miss-spoke in my last post. Classic and modern skins do share some settings. The most notable is the player volume.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Aminifu on November 03, 2021, 03:28:36 AM
After making a few minor adjustments and adding animated speakers for my personal use, this is now my second favorite skin.
Click on the image below to make it larger.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin)
Post by: Denis on November 21, 2021, 08:50:13 PM

Wow this is very cool) :o
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0 (Last updated: November 22nd 2021)
Post by: dro on November 22, 2021, 02:42:00 AM
First post of the thread has now been updated to provide v2.0 of the skin, enjoy & don't forget to thank Denis!

-dro
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0 (Last updated: November 22nd 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on November 22, 2021, 08:06:00 AM
Hi Denis,

Interesting changes in version 2.0. I can't get the animated speakers to work. Is there an option somewhere that needs to be enabled?
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0 (Last updated: November 22nd 2021)
Post by: Denis on November 22, 2021, 08:23:01 AM
Hi Denis,

Interesting changes in version 2.0. I can't get the animated speakers to work. Is there an option somewhere that needs to be enabled?

I think they work. They have little diffuser travel and only respond to low frequencies. But yes, I'll probably make a second mode, which will be more visual.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0 (Last updated: November 22nd 2021)
Post by: Denis on November 22, 2021, 08:26:25 AM
Script resources 2.0.0
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0 (Last updated: November 22nd 2021)
Post by: ariszlo on November 22, 2021, 10:46:08 AM
Thanks, Denis. :)
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0 (Last updated: November 22nd 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on November 24, 2021, 08:25:04 AM
Hi Denis,

Interesting changes in version 2.0. I can't get the animated speakers to work. Is there an option somewhere that needs to be enabled?

I think they work. They have little diffuser travel and only respond to low frequencies. But yes, I'll probably make a second mode, which will be more visual.

Yes !!! Thanks, Denis.  :D

I used the equalizer to maximize the frequencies output of my files and still don't see any movement in the main speaker drivers. So I hope you do find time to make a second mode.

I have seen multiple driver speakers in other skins where all the drivers are animated. I added the animated speakers (shown in reply #32 above) from Steven Mould's excellent "JVC Tape v0.6" skin to your skin. He graciously gives his consent that his skin may be used as a reference point. Only the large bass drivers are animated in these speakers, but the speakers look like the real thing and do provide a very cool effect, imo.

I remember using component stereo systems many, many years ago and like using skins that remind me of those old analog music systems.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0 (Last updated: November 22nd 2021)
Post by: Denis on November 24, 2021, 10:16:05 PM
Here is a new version in which I improved the animation and added several types of speakers. Now the speaker membranes are more sensitive, and you can see how they move. But I am still working on them.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on November 26, 2021, 10:04:39 PM
Thank you Denis for the quick turn-around. An early Xmas present?  :)

I can see the speaker animation in all 3 modes with the base and entire frequency ranges. The effect is subtle in the standard mode and more pronounced in the other 2.

I was surprised by the feature added to replace the equalizer from the earlier versions. I'm not a skinner, so I will need to learn how to use it. I use a DSP plug-in instead of the equalizer, so I won't miss it.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Denis on November 27, 2021, 02:26:48 AM
Due to the fact that I do not use the equalizer from the winamp, I keep forgetting that I need to do my own window for it. I always had the idea to move all functions like balance, x-fade and others to the equalizer window. But I understand that it will take a lot of time, which I do not have yet.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: ariszlo on November 27, 2021, 07:50:40 PM
I always had the idea to move all functions like balance, x-fade and others to the equalizer window. But I understand that it will take a lot of time, which I do not have yet.

Much less time than how much you have put into making your skin so far. Have a look at the equalizer of my Study Skin (https://getwacup.com/community/index.php?topic=1272.0) with crossfade and balance sliders.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on December 25, 2021, 07:55:08 AM
Hi Denis,

I've returned to version 163_Beta because I like the way album art is used in the 2 info boxes in the playlist in this version better than in version 2.0.5. I just noticed an issue with the info box that contains the song title, artist, album, etc. This info is not updated when the next song starts if the album art or artist associated with the song is the same as was associated with the previous song. I can get the info to update correctly if I close and re-open the playlist window. I'm wondering if this is due to the way this version of the skin is coded or if it is due to something in WACUP's coding. I'm currently using beta build #9630.


Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on January 30, 2022, 07:15:10 PM
Hi Denis,

I failed to say in my last post (#44) that I'm still using v2.0.5 with Winamp. I returned to v163_Beta with WACUP.

Anyway, I don't see any difference when enabling the "Animated timer counter" option in v2.0.5. What is supposed to happen?

I don't see the failure to update the song title in the info box in v2.0.5 when the albumart is the same as the previous song. So, I assume this issue is only in v163_Beta. I don't expect (or want) you to try to fix this in the older version. The playing song titles are correctly shown in the main player window and the currently playing song is correctly highlighted in the playlist editor window.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: MarkRH on February 19, 2022, 11:47:44 PM
I've been playing around with your skin (200 and 205) and I noticed that in the playlist window, it will frequently show no album art or it will show it for a moment then I get the No Cover Art image. The Album Art window always shows it.  I have a folder.jpg file in all my album directories.

Version 150 of the skin seems to always show the album art in the playlist window.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on February 20, 2022, 12:13:47 AM

... The Album Art window always shows it.  ...


I'm a bit confused, I don't see an album art window in all of the Defix Hi-End versions I have tried. How do you enable it?
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: MarkRH on February 20, 2022, 01:05:47 AM
I'm a bit confused, I don't see an album art window in all of the Defix Hi-End versions I have tried. How do you enable it?
It probably isn't part of the skin.  I just right-click on the player and select the album art window.  Probably need the Album Art General Plug-in installed to see it. 

Mark H.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on February 20, 2022, 04:02:28 AM
Strange, I don't see it in the context menu. I know how to add a .maki file and a .xml file that would add an album art window and place the enable/disable command on the context menu. However I use version 163_Beta and like the way album art is used in the 2 info boxes in the playlist editor window, so I don't need a separate album art window.

The gen_classicart.dll plug-in (which I have enabled) is for adding an album art window to classic skins.


Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: MarkRH on February 20, 2022, 04:09:46 AM
Here's my context menu.  I see the Album Art option with every skin I have: https://i.imgur.com/tIMQB4u.png

Here's what the Album Art window looks like with the 205 skin: https://i.imgur.com/QYde6Jz.png

With the 150 Skin, it's just a general looking window.  If I disable the gen_classicart.dll plugin, then I loose the Album Art menu selection and the window as well for any skin.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on February 20, 2022, 05:21:22 AM
Ok, the only thing I can think of, for me not having what you do, is we are not using the same gen_classicart.dll. I'm using version 1.20 that was modified by dro to work better with WACUP. However, your info report says you are using the same version. In my preferences, WACUP plug-ins are listed with a WACUP logo, Winamp plug-ins with a Winamp logo, and 3rd party plug-ins with a question mark. Gen_classicart.dll has a WACUP logo.

If dro sees these posts maybe he can explain why we get different results with gen_classicart.dll. At this point, I don't want to disturb him with a PM about this.

Some of the modern skins I use didn't have standalone album art windows. I added the files I mentioned in my last post to add an album art window that uses the basic frame of the skins I want it in. If I disable my gen_classicart.dll, then I loose the Album Art window in my classic skins and the context menu command, while my modern skins with standalone album art windows are not affected (they still have the window and the context menu command).
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on February 20, 2022, 08:34:16 AM
Hi MarkRH,

After doing a little research, version 1.1 of gen_classicart.dll (last version developed for Winamp) appears to work as you have described. Are you sure that is not the version you are using?
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: dro on February 20, 2022, 09:30:55 AM
It might be that the option in the plug-in to hide it's window under a modern skin is enabled. Also mark is using an interim build of the plug-in for testing out a display issue fix.

-dro
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: MarkRH on February 20, 2022, 03:11:42 PM
Okay,

I've been using the 32bit WACUP to play with these skins and it is using the classicart.dll that came with it which is 1.20. The test one that Dro gave me is in the 64bit version which is version 1.20.2.  Never had a problem with the album art window in the 32bit version.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: dro on February 20, 2022, 04:45:12 PM
Two builds is getting confusing to keep track of what's what at times. I'll have to re-read this thread when I get back on the PC as I'm struggling to otherwise envision what's going on unless it's a setting conflict nor can I remember what the skin is offering without being able to double-check it.

-dro
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on February 20, 2022, 07:08:57 PM
It might be that the option in the plug-in to hide it's window under a modern skin is enabled. Also mark is using an interim build of the plug-in for testing out a display issue fix.

-dro

Once again dro has the answer. The option to hide under a modern skin is enabled in my configuration, so gen_classicart.dll v1.20 is able to add a standalone album art window to classic and modern skins. If enabling this option is not the default, I forgot I did it long ago to prevent double windows in modern skins that already had one.

Now I have to decide to keep the mods I made to some of the modern skins I use or let some have an extra album art window.  Since the affected skins would have 2 Album Art commands in their context menus, it is easy to close one of them.  The window added by the plug-in has a darker image (maybe a dark filter overlay is being used). I don't know if there is a way to brighten it.  :-\

Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: dro on February 20, 2022, 09:56:57 PM
The window added by the plug-in has a darker image (maybe a dark filter overlay is being used). I don't know if there is a way to brighten it.  :-\
That's a bug with the plug-in which due to a few other things changing (ironically things running a bit faster) only recently started happening & is due to the not found handling being incorrectly applied when artwork is retrieved. That's one of the things in the test build of the plug-in mark is using.

As for the option, it's enabled by default as unless I add in a known list of skins, there's no reasonable way that I know off at the moment to be able to determine if the modern skin provides it's own window or not. So by just hiding it by default it prevents potentially having dual windows (from the plug-in & from the skin). Ideally I'd just prefer to have it set to use the plug-in irrespective of the & the skins that have their own window to be either edited to not provide one (easier with the bundled skins) or some form of patching to automatically prevent it being created if running under WACUP.

-dro
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on February 20, 2022, 11:40:10 PM
Controlling the extra album art window with the extra command in the context menu currently works for me. I do run the risk of overloading the context menu, since some modern skins add more unique commands of their own. Removing the standalone window from the skins that have their own or blocking them somehow is probably a better way to go.

Beyond the overload risk, I have been dealing with the issue mentioned before elsewhere. I'm talking about the OS not providing a way to scroll a context menu that gets clipped at the bottom. In my case, the clipping is not because the menu is behind the taskbar. I can see the bottom part of the menu, that is displayed, on top of the taskbar.


Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on February 23, 2022, 02:15:56 AM
Yesterday and today the images in the standalone album art windows provided by the gen_classicart plug-in have been normal. It appears that the bug that causes the images to darken is not triggered all the time.

I have disabled the standalone album art windows in the skins I use that provide their own to prevent double Album Art commands in the main context menus of these skins.


Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: dro on February 23, 2022, 02:54:07 AM
Its a timing issue that causes it to dim at times & not at others as it's not always setting the internal flag in the appropriate manner. That's why it can be fine at times & not at others. From the few that have been trying out test builds of the plug-in, the change made has been running ok so the next build (likely some point next week) will put a hopeful end to the dimming issue.

-dro
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: ChocolateAdventurouz on March 20, 2022, 01:16:42 PM
Finally another awsome skin with speakers!
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on April 05, 2022, 04:39:34 AM
The issue stated in reply #59 about the dimming of the album art in the standalone window is fixed by the option added to the gen_classicart plug-in in beta build #11096 (x86).


Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on May 26, 2022, 06:49:19 AM
Hi Denis,

I stumbled across an old DSP plug-in on the WinampHeritage website that should let me replace the Stereo Tool DSP plug-in I have been using. So far it runs without issues with WACUP. It is called iZotope Ozone Free. You will need to run it's installer as an Administrator, if WACUP is installed under the Program Files (x86) folder. Before Stereo Tool, I used Ozone for years until iZotope discontinued it. iZotope Ozone Free is a full featured demo of Ozone that only runs 10 of it's built-in presets. I'm happy with the adjustments 3 of these presets make to the sound of my files. I'm pretty sure you will find 1 or more you will also be happy with.

This version of Ozone uses substantially less computer resources than Stereo Tool and introduces significantly less latency into the audio processing chain. This demo doesn't save it's selected configuration between WACUP sessions, but it's setup is simple and quick. Select the desired preset, then the plus or minus input level from the input plug-in being used, and finally the plus or minus output level to the output plug-in being used. I suggest you set the input and output levels so that what is shown on the vu meters do not constantly stay at their red levels.

iZotope Ozone Free uses 3 modules (valve equalizer, room simulation and tube amplifier) to perform its magic. You can look at how the selected preset has setup each module, but you can't change these settings. You can disable any or all of these modules to hear the affect they have on the sound. Depending on the WACUP skin being used it may be necessary to minimize  iZotope Ozone Free's configuration user interface to keep it's vu meters (and other active elements) from interfering with (slowing down) the active elements in the skin.

Another benefit of using iZotope Ozone Free instead of Stereo Tool is the rate of WACUP's working set memory increase is much slower, even with the reported resource leak in recent beta releases. I use the WACUP option to recover working set memory that is no longer being actively used. It is set to trigger every 15 minutes. With Stereo Tool, the reported amount of working set memory would exceed 100 MB between these reset intervals on my computer. With iZotope Ozone Free, the working set memory has stayed below 80 MB between the reset intervals.





Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on June 10, 2023, 10:01:04 PM
Hi Denis,

I hope you're doing well.

Can you post the script source files for Defix Hi-END 205 and Defix Hi-End 163_Beta. Thank you

BTW, I dropped the DSP mentioned in my last post. I'm now using Jammix Enhancer v031. It does a good job enhancing the sound and uses a great deal less computer resources.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Cowpox on June 12, 2023, 04:57:42 PM
First of all, fantastic skin! Really enjoying the cassette animations and I think it's up there with the best retro hi-fi skins I've seen.

I have, however, spotted an issue with album art not loading correctly. It seems to be when an album includes different embedded album art for each mp3 the skin gets a bit confused and either shows "no cover art" or keeps the last loaded album art for each track.
Title: This might fix v163
Post by: ariszlo on June 13, 2023, 11:24:07 AM
I just noticed an issue with the info box that contains the song title, artist, album, etc. This info is not updated when the next song starts if the album art or artist associated with the song is the same as was associated with the previous song.

Hi Aminifu,

This may fix the issue:
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on June 14, 2023, 10:45:06 AM
Hi ariszlo,

I followed your instructions and it worked. My work-a-round when using this skin was to make sure that consecutive items in a playlist didn't have the same album art and/or artist. Of course this meant I couldn't play consecutive songs from the same album, if I wanted the info box to update correctly.

Now I can !!!

Is the script compiler you provided just for this skin's fileinfo source file or can I use it with other source files for other skins?


Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: dro on June 14, 2023, 11:33:38 AM
The compiler is the one to use for any skin files.

-dro
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on June 14, 2023, 12:09:42 PM
Ok, I've been using another maki compiler that ariszlo had provided a link to some time back. It has more support files associated with it.

So anyway, in this case I just needed to make and use the fileinfo.maki from an earlier version of this skin to solve my issue and I could have used either compiler to make it.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: dro on June 14, 2023, 12:32:36 PM
mc.exe v1.2 from what I remember is the last compiler that was released & is the one to use when trying to compile any m -> maki files. Depending on how / where the compiler is obtained from will also determine if the supporting library files that the compiler uses are present or not (the things that help it to be able to generate things). If you'd already been working with a solution that allows you to compile things & they worked then I'd not mess around with it as you're probably already using that compiler version anyway.

-dro
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on June 14, 2023, 01:55:30 PM
I've been using mc.exe v1.2 that I got from the link in ariszlo's MAKIs thread. So I don't need the one linked above. I just wanted to be sure it wasn't a special version, an update or something like that.

Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: ariszlo on June 14, 2023, 06:20:50 PM
mc.exe v1.2 from what I remember is the last compiler that was released & is the one to use when trying to compile any m -> maki files

mc.exe is the same in both compile-defix-fileinfo.zip (https://getwacup.com/community/index.php?topic=984.msg10230#msg10230) and MAKI Compiler v1.2.0.zip (https://getwacup.com/community/index.php?topic=1183.0). The difference is only in the number of .m and .mi files and in where they are within the directory structure.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on July 05, 2023, 02:53:17 PM
Hi ariszlo,

I'm happy with the script you suggested I use for fixing the info boxes in the DeFix skin. But, there is something happening that I want to tell you about. When first starting a WACUP session with this skin and script, the info boxes are not showing the expected info. But after the first selected file in the playlist is played (or manually switching to the next file and back) everything looks as expected.

One of the info boxes displays 4 lines (title, location, year and decoder) instead of the normal 5 lines (title, artist, album, year and decoder). The title displayed in the 4 line display is the ATF string used by the playlist editor window instead of the track's title that is displayed in the 5 line display.

The other info box normally shows the full albumart from the selected track and slivers of albumart from the next 4 following tracks. When first starting (before completing playback of the first selected track or switching to the next track and back) the full albumart and slivers of albumart shown are all from the first selected track.

I assume this is happening because the System.onTitleChange function in the script doesn't execute until playback of the first track completes or the first selected file is changed.


Also I think this skin with this script maybe causing the latest version of WACUP to crash, if it is left loaded without starting playback for an extended amount of time (30 minutes or more). I have no proof of this other than WACUP has not crashed when left loaded and not playing anything with other skins for around the same amount of time. I normally don't load WACUP without soon starting playback. However I have been using WACUP's ALT+3 file editor (the last two days) to edit the metadata in some of my files without starting playback. When I do it with this skin loaded a crash occurs after a half hour or more. When I do the same thing with another skin loaded no crash. There has also been no crashes when using WACUP to play files with this and any of the other skins I use, while editing files that are not in the playlist. This is weird, doesn't make sense and is probably circumstantial, but the crashes the last 2 days have only happened when this skin was loaded without starting playback. Can you think of anything this skin and script could be doing without starting playback that could cause a crash?

I know that I can't use the ALT+3 editor to edit a selected file that is playing. I can edit a selected file that is not playing, but could that be leading to the crashes? I've also been using this skin's feature that lets me get info for the selected PL file thru my external web browser. Could this be leading to the crashes?
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: ariszlo on July 08, 2023, 08:59:54 PM
Hi Aminifu,

One of the info boxes displays 4 lines (title, location, year and decoder) instead of the normal 5 lines (title, artist, album, year and decoder). The title displayed in the 4 line display is the ATF string used by the playlist editor window instead of the track's title that is displayed in the 5 line display.

The attached fileinfo.m fixes it.

The other info box normally shows the full albumart from the selected track and slivers of albumart from the next 4 following tracks. When first starting (before completing playback of the first selected track or switching to the next track and back) the full albumart and slivers of albumart shown are all from the first selected track.

I don't know why they all look alike to you. To me, they are all different.

Also I think this skin with this script maybe causing the latest version of WACUP to crash, if it is left loaded without starting playback for an extended amount of time (30 minutes or more).

Maybe. It did not crash to me when I left it alone for 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on July 09, 2023, 03:02:38 AM
Hi ariszlo,

Main thing, no more crashes when using this skin. Must have been something else triggering them.

Thank you very much for the updated fileinfo script. Now I always get the expected 5 line display in the info box.

I'm still seeing the same album art for the initial pl selection displayed 5 times in the second info box, instead of album art for the first 5 pl entries. It's really not a big deal since it corrects itself after the initial selection is played or I switch to another selection. Since you're not seeing this, it's probably something it my configuration causing it. I'm only using mp3s at the moment and all the files have embedded album art images.

I'm also using the gen_win7shell plug-in that dro updated for use with WACUP. It can be used for customizing what's displayed when pointing to WACUP's taskbar icon. I configured it to display album art for the pl selection as it's background. Sometimes this album art is not displayed. Maybe this plug-in or whatever is causing it to randomly fail to display album art is involved with why I see multiple versions of the same album art for the initial pl selection upon loading WACUP with this skin.

Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: ariszlo on July 09, 2023, 01:09:28 PM
I configured it to display album art for the pl selection as it's background.

That makes no difference to me. My guess is that the issue might be related to playlist size (my playlists are quite short). What happens if you increase the delays in coverflow.m?
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on July 10, 2023, 12:54:48 AM
Hi ariszlo,

Nothing I try gets the coverflow to work correctly when this version of the skin is initially loaded with my configuration of WACUP. So, I returned to the script version released 8/19/21. Please don't waste more time looking into this. It's easy for me to get it working, as I explained earlier. I simply need to do whatever action that causes WACUP to issue a title change message.

The important thing for me is you got the expected 5 line display to work correctly all the time (when first loaded and during playback regardless of what's listed consecutively in a playlist).

PS:
Have you noticed the number of times this thread as been read? It appears there is a lot of interest, but only a hand-full of people have chosen to make a comment.  ::)

PSS:
Good news. With the latest beta v1.9.10.16000, the coverflow feature corrects itself as soon as playback starts.


Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: dro on July 10, 2023, 11:17:59 AM
PS:
Have you noticed the number of times this thread as been read? It appears there is a lot of interest, but only a hand-full of people have chosen to make a comment.  ::)
Don't assume it's users. As bots / scraping also seem to be treated as a view.

PSS:
Good news. With the latest beta v1.9.10.16000, the coverflow feature corrects itself as soon as playback starts.
Am waiting for the PSSS where it's then not behaving. Not sure why it'd now be behaving as I'd not looked at this skin for the work on that build & only obvious things relate to some of the metadata reading adjustments from the local library.

-dro
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on July 10, 2023, 01:27:05 PM
Hi dro,

You jinxed it this time. The coverflow feature is back to it's bad behavior. It again only starts working correctly when another track is selected or when the next track starts playing after the initial track has played.   ;D



Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: dro on July 10, 2023, 01:38:27 PM
I didn't expect it to be actually fixed because it's something fundamentally wrong with the skin / it's scripts vs timings / metadata interactions along with the problem that gen_ff has in using a shared buffer for metadata requests which is not thread-safe i.e. different things can go on & overwrite that memory whilst another action is already trying to get the info - that's why whichever script it was that got changed in this/another skin fixed the metadata being wrong as it's altering when those metadata calls are made & avoids the gen_ff core implementation design failure.

-dro
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: ariszlo on July 10, 2023, 07:53:29 PM
Nothing I try gets the coverflow to work correctly when this version of the skin is initially loaded with my configuration of WACUP.

Are the slivers ok in v2.0.5?
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on July 11, 2023, 02:11:53 AM
Version 2.0.5 doesn't have the coverflow feature. It's the main reason I'm not using it, along with a bad implementation of automated speakers, imo.

Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on July 11, 2023, 04:21:19 AM
Hi ariszlo,

I'm also using your script that displays in the seek bar tool tip the percentage of playback used and scripts for animated speakers from another skin. I didn't bother to disable them to see if they're involved with the coverflow issue. I'm going to keep using these scripts even if they are.


Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: ariszlo on July 11, 2023, 07:17:37 AM
Version 2.0.5 doesn't have the coverflow feature.

It does but there is a difference. If songs from the same album have different cover arts then v1.63 (left) shows all covers, while v2.05 (right) only shows the cover of the first song.
Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Aminifu on July 11, 2023, 08:26:37 AM
Sorry for the miss-information. I need to do better. You are correct.

In my defense, such as it is, I have v2.0.5 installed with Winamp and I very seldom use it. I try to keep up with what's going on with Winamp, but other than a brief period of testing a new release, I only use it when I need to embed album art. Now when I need to do that, I mostly use the Quinto Black CT v3.7 skin.

Now that you have pointed out my error, I remember that I don't like the way coverflow works in v2.0.5. I should have said it works differently, instead of saying it doesn't have the feature. I now remember I don't like a lot of the changes in v2.0.5.

As you know, there are 4 images instead of 5 and the portions of album art are larger in v2.0.5. It takes a little longer for each image to appear and I don't have the same image repeating when I load Winamp with v2.0.5. It works as expected, in that I get the images from the selected track in the playlist and the first few following it.

Of course WACUP, with core code changes, now works a lot differently than Winamp, internally. Anyway since you don't have my coverflow issue with WACUP, it probably is something in my configuration or the way it's setup causing this issue (which is very easy for me to live with since a solution has not been quickly found). Of as dro says, it's due to the way gen_ff lets requests for metadata from different threads at the same time get stepped on.


Title: Re: Defix Hi-End (skin) v2.0.5 (Last updated: November 24th 2021)
Post by: Denis on December 28, 2023, 07:59:36 PM
In fact, I myself like version 1.6 better. :D
It's just that in version 2 I was too focused on neatness and style