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Title: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: victhor on May 16, 2018, 10:12:03 PM
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/i/7b80cd76-77fd-472e-a686-70429806aabe/demwr7s-fe51c595-aab3-424a-a6a8-8333cdada764.png)


(https://orig00.deviantart.net/1f5b/f/2014/109/9/e/w15x15_by_victhor-d7f5sy1.png)Tired of Winamp looking so old and microscopic? Big Bento Modern is a complete re-design of the last Winamp default skin, aiming to be readable -and usable- on high resolutions, with a fresh look and smooth animations.(https://orig00.deviantart.net/1f5b/f/2014/109/9/e/w15x15_by_victhor-d7f5sy1.png)

Years in the making, it's now offered for free, spread the word if you like it and/or donate what you can (with PayPal (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=H2NNRMPGKKVDA)) so we can keep our beloved music player really up to date.


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Zip file includes standard and a Windows 10 styled version, both with light mode. Just place all folders (don't rename it!) on your Winamp skin's directory. Read the included .txt for extra details on the skin, languages and WACUP related info.

(https://orig00.deviantart.net/319d/f/2014/109/9/c/llama_by_victhor-d7f5s5d.png)* Polish lang pack done and updated by Paweł Porwisz (http://pawelporwisz.pl/) and french by Azuryth, big thanks to both of them!
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/319d/f/2014/109/9/c/llama_by_victhor-d7f5s5d.png)* Also, big thanks to Darren Owen for the shortcuts used on Playlist info buttons.
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Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: dro on May 16, 2018, 10:57:13 PM
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Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: victhor on May 17, 2018, 12:42:10 AM
Latest Changelog:

1.2 (2021-07-07):
New = Added "File Path" option to File Info Components (+ right click -or left if not cycling trough items- to open it)
New = Tabs visibility can be switched between 'Completely Hidden', 'Only Icons' and 'Icons + Text'.
New = Album art can be enabled on Playlist Tab now.
New = Added option to use rounder corners on album art.
New = 10 new color themes for all variants.
Fixed = A self-introduced bug on the regular BBM grabber between Songticker and Multi Content View.
Fixed = Visualization's right-click menu available even when it wasn´t visible (thanks Abhijitat!).
Fixed = Resizer was reachable above minimize-maximize when on fullscreen
Fixed = Black screen left behind when using Ctrl+W to switch Win10 version to/from shade mode (with 'Link shade and player width' enabled)
Fixed / Changed = Fixed scrollbars look when not using freeform scrollbars (ML buttons look different too).
Changed = [Config] Color Themes List View button now opens color themes list 'in place' (no more confusing prefs page).
Changed = Undo message when hiding album art cover from File info view.
Changed = Song info (Bitrate and such) hides when playback is stopped (avoids previous confusion on remaining visuals).
Improved = Replaced "Enable Button to Show Hidden Tabs" (function too unclear) with a simpler button showing on hover when player height hides last tabs.
Improved = General tweaks and improvements on some color themes (prioritized legibility instead of 'color replica-accuracy').
Improved = Updated spanish, french and polish lang packs accordingly (thanks Pawel and Azuryth!).
+ more gfx fixes and/or improvements

1.1.5.1 (2020-01-22):
Fixed = Removed glow on Volume hover on Win10 light version (change intended for previous build actually..)

1.1.5 (2020-01-16):
New = Option in Songticker's Right-Click menu to customize welcome message (thanks Juanus!).
New = [WACUP] specific screenshots.
New = (Notifications) Mouse hover reveals a close button now
Fixed = Spanish translation (thanks 440 hercios!)
Fixed = Swapped Osciloscope's 'solid' and 'lines' in Vis RC menu (thanks PimpUigi!)
Removed = Variants of Oxygen font (experimental, it can be back)
Removed = Skin tips
Removed = File info background fade-in on startup (snappier)
Removed = Songticker option "copy songticker info..." (it can be back if requested enough)
Removed = Extra separators on Right-Click menus.
Improved = Volume pop-up rebuilt to be more responsive.
Improved = Cleaned up some unused gammagroups.
Improved = [WACUP] PL scrollbar has a better integration now.
Improved = Multibutton's text "Open About Winamp" changed to "Default Lightning Bolt Behaviour" to better reflect what's selected on Advanced Library Preferences.
Improved = Album art on side panel and File Info section now have a better Close button.
Improved = Under the hood work to make Color Themes page easier to update (door way more opened to new themes =) ).
Improved = "Legacy" Color Themes look better now.
Added = Gordon Freeman's color themes (thanks!) + 4 new ones by me.Changed = Songticker is now aligned to the left. Center option was fine for short text but long strings were getting wrongly cutted.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: victhor on May 17, 2018, 12:45:15 AM
💖

Down the road, a WACUP exclusive release will be made, for sure ;) .
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: Juanus on May 17, 2018, 01:38:13 AM
This Windows 10 edition is FIRE! :fire: :fire: :fire:
Blow the reggae horn!
I didn't know what improvements you were going to make but this skin is AMAZING!
So many options. I feel like I fell in love all over again.
All the options! All the Color themes! All the modern look and feel!
I swear my music sounds better just by looking at it!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: musicf8 on May 17, 2018, 03:31:48 AM
Wow, this is amazing!  Well done Victhor!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: victhor on May 17, 2018, 03:37:30 AM
This Windows 10 edition is FIRE! :fire: :fire: :fire:
Blow the reggae horn!
I didn't know what improvements you were going to make but this skin is AMAZING!
So many options. I feel like I fell in love all over again.
All the options! All the Color themes! All the modern look and feel!
I swear my music sounds better just by looking at it!

(https://media.tenor.com/images/b55be4a3ac0cee515ff4ec4aba9b9b40/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: victhor on May 17, 2018, 03:38:24 AM
Wow, this is amazing!  Well done Victhor!

Proud to be your first post heh (Thanks!)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: Pawel on May 17, 2018, 09:29:46 AM
Victhor,
Thank you for your work. Thank you for your passion. Thank you for this amazing skin!
I've already said that, but you can repeat it forever. The skin is just great. Plenty of options, features, amazing graphics, every pixel means something :)

Polish translation works very nice (tested with Winamp). I hope, DrO will work even harder (is this even possible?) to add translation system to WACUP (then translators can start his work to prepare language pack for WACUP - I really hope someone from community will take on this hard task... For sure I will try).

Ps: At times like this, I think to myself I have not wasted my time on supporting Winamp...

-Pawel
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: victhor on May 17, 2018, 03:02:58 PM
Victhor,
Thank you for your work. Thank you for your passion. Thank you for this amazing skin!
I've already said that, but you can repeat it forever. The skin is just great. Plenty of options, features, amazing graphics, every pixel means something :)

Wow! Thanks for your words, I love to see people enjoying my work this much, specially other devs! ;) . I wish I only could be faster to deliver, 2 years is a lot of time (I left it untouched for months at time, but anyway..).

Polish translation works very nice (tested with Winamp). I hope, DrO will work even harder (is this even possible?) to add translation system to WACUP (then translators can start his work to prepare language pack for WACUP - I really hope someone from community will take on this hard task... For sure I will try).

Indeed, luckily by the time this happens it will surely have spanish and polish translators XD .

Ps: At times like this, I think to myself I have not wasted my time on supporting Winamp...

The future of Winamp is on our shoulders now.. can be hard at times. Sometimes there´s a feeling that our work goes for a small handful of people, but from time to time I can see how Winamp is still present on the general internet culture and feel a little bit better.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: Juanus on May 17, 2018, 03:56:07 PM
I've been playing with all of the settings (so many settings!!!)
However, under the settings appearance menu, there is a choice for "Enable Button to show hidden tabs"
I cannot see what that button does or what it changes. What am I missing?

Thanks for this amazing skin. I love the new font and font sizes!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: paradoXx on May 17, 2018, 04:44:34 PM
Great update!
However, I'm having two problems:
1. If I pause playback while the notification is visible, the notification won't disappear (and will even pause the fading animation) until I click on it or resume playback. This problem already existed in the previous version. Hoped it would be fixed in 1.0
2. I can't enter the 'search playlist' bar anymore by clicking on it. My current workaround is to right click it, then select an item from the search history and edit it. Pressing esc to exit the search bar won't work either. This issue is new in 1.0

still loving the skin ;)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: victhor on May 17, 2018, 05:27:51 PM
I've been playing with all of the settings (so many settings!!!)
However, under the settings appearance menu, there is a choice for "Enable Button to show hidden tabs"
I cannot see what that button does or what it changes. What am I missing?

This enables a button to avoid the need to manually resize the player to reach bottom tabs. See the gif =)


@ParadoXx:
1. Wow! This is on my end too, will fix it.
2. Weird, I changed the behaviour a bit to exchange the Search button for the "Clear search" but the bar is untouched, I can't reproduce it in fact. Do you have a custom font set?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: paradoXx on May 17, 2018, 05:56:30 PM
Problem solved. I use the Windows 10 edition. There are some lines in the playlistpro.xml still saying "...file="@SKINSPATH@\Big Bento Modern\...", which doesn't exist anymore.
This also caused an error message on Winamp startup and the disappearence of the search bar after I deleted the old folder.
Renamed the path entries and it works just fine now ;)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: victhor on May 17, 2018, 06:35:39 PM
Problem solved. I use the Windows 10 edition. There are some lines in the playlistpro.xml still saying "...file="@SKINSPATH@\Big Bento Modern\...", which doesn't exist anymore.
This also caused an error message on Winamp startup and the disappearence of the search bar after I deleted the old folder.
Renamed the path entries and it works just fine now ;)

Thanks for the info, I was noticed about the nonexistent files asked through another channel, it's fixed now (this is consequence of the last minutes changes of every release..). The notification is a bit trickier so for the time being I've disabled the notification triggered when pausing. Changelog updated.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: Juanus on May 17, 2018, 07:06:56 PM
I've been playing with all of the settings (so many settings!!!)
However, under the settings appearance menu, there is a choice for "Enable Button to show hidden tabs"
I cannot see what that button does or what it changes. What am I missing?

This enables a button to avoid the need to manually resize the player to reach bottom tabs. See the gif

Oh. I see it now! I had the skin maximized so there was no reason for it to show up. Very nice! You didn't miss a beat.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: synthetiq on May 17, 2018, 08:45:37 PM
Oh Nostalgia!
Thanks! ;) will give it a try.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: synthetiq on May 17, 2018, 09:15:22 PM
Sorry for newbie question
this works in which winamp version?
thanks
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: dro on May 17, 2018, 09:27:59 PM
It'll work with 5.666 (preferably patched) as well as the WACUP beta (there's a note about any WACUP related issues in the skin zip).

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: victhor on May 17, 2018, 09:51:07 PM
Exactly

@synthetiq: futuristic nostalgia maybe? XD
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.1 (2018-05-17)
Post by: Pawel on May 18, 2018, 03:19:12 PM
@Victhor
I am using your skin and I found few minor issues already. I will prepare some info for some time.

I found untranslated message box text (see attachment).
-Pawel
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.1 (2018-05-17)
Post by: victhor on May 18, 2018, 04:40:35 PM
Heh, I counted on you to find the little details missing =). If it's too many issues should we continue through PM or e-mail?

That particular line I think was already present on my Spanish base file, so I may not include to translate. I'll check if there is another one.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.1 (2018-05-17)
Post by: victhor on May 19, 2018, 07:50:40 PM
Uploaded v1.02 with various fixes and improvements, probably the last one for a while (or until I hear back from Pawel XD ).
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release
Post by: synthetiq on May 19, 2018, 09:20:06 PM
Exactly

@synthetiq: futuristic nostalgia maybe? XD

For sure victhor !
Thanks for the skin. Already "rocking" here!
But I can only find the skins in the skin browser and not when I use right click->Skins
it does not appear in the list.
And when I switch skins it freezes for a while.
Anyway it's fun to test new skins in 2018

Hugs and keep the good work.

Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: dro on May 19, 2018, 10:38:51 PM
You need to make sure that you extract the skins out into folders & that you don't just put the zip in the skins folder & try to use that.

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.1 (2018-05-17)
Post by: Juanus on May 19, 2018, 10:59:33 PM
probably the last one for a while

I hope that is not true.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on May 19, 2018, 11:21:45 PM
probably the last one for a while

I hope that is not true.

Last update, I meant, not skin!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Ricardo_estep on May 22, 2018, 02:57:02 PM
¡¡WOOHAAA!! ¡Awesome work! New Animations, Colors and that "explorer"... WOW

Winamp its comin again and Its real awesome!
Thank you! :D
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on May 22, 2018, 05:11:10 PM
Winamp its comin again and Its real awesome!
Thank you! :D

THAT is the feeling I wanted to get, makes me more than happy that you see it that way XD
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: vigilant on May 25, 2018, 10:41:38 PM
Hi,

Victhor.
First I want to say, this new skin is great!
I am loving it.

Second, you know in the original winamp skin, there is a visualization, the bars or the lines, where the time is displayed in the left top corner. How can I make it in this skin like that? I don't want the big visualization. Just the bars or lines under or close to where the controls are, for pause playing fast forward and all. You know?

I hope you understand what I am asking.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Juanus on May 25, 2018, 10:54:42 PM
Put your mouse over the bar that is circled and drag it over to the right and the bars that you are looking for will appear.
see screenshot.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: vigilant on May 25, 2018, 10:59:09 PM
Put your mouse over the bar that is circled and drag it over to the right and the bars that you are looking for will appear.
see screenshot.

Thank you so much Mr Juanus
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Crisis on May 26, 2018, 03:20:41 PM
Congratulations on the final release. Been using this skin for a while and absolutely love it. I even donated!

Looking forward to the WACUP exclusive release victhor!

If I could politely suggest one (very) minor improvement it would be an option to disable the spectrum analyzer being mirrored. I much prefer low frequencies (bass) on the left and high frequencies on the right.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on May 26, 2018, 04:09:23 PM
I've just seen your donation! HUGE THANKS! (eventually I'll have to think of a place where to put your name and others who donate).

About the visualizer, sounds like a good idea, I'll have to figure out a mode for a more traditional one like you mention, even if it means a smaller vis. Seems like people look at vis frequencies way more than I do heh, and removing left and right distinction is a bit of a bummer.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on June 21, 2018, 01:33:13 AM
WACUP version is progressing now, check it out:

(https://getwacup.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=327.0;attach=518)

And for those of you using the skin, I'd like to know how you're doing with it now that a month has passed. Is it working fine? Does it have all the features you need? Did someone jumped from Big Bento to Modern? (is there anything you miss then?) Is the size good enough, or a bit more would be better?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Juanus on June 21, 2018, 02:18:02 AM
I love love love this skin. It has completely replaced Bento for me. I am not missing anything.
I specifically use the Windows 10 edition as I like the style.

I have a feature request that may or may not be possible. I wonder if you can make "custom" Tabs on the side.
Example. There is Media Library, Playlist, Visualization, Web Reader, Equalizer, Skin Settings.
I would love to be able to add one of the Smart Views to that side bar or the Downloads view.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on June 21, 2018, 03:16:39 PM
Cool, I'm glad you're enjoying the skin so much.
About your request, is not possible to add custom views from the library, Winamp only allows entire components. I can't even duplicate components (ie. another Library to have it set with a specific view).
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: scr1m3 on June 23, 2018, 10:25:39 PM
Thank you victhor, I'm really loving this new skin. Makes Winamp feel like it was released in 2018 :)

Was wondering, is there anyway for the end user to change the browser in Web Reader to something like Chrome for example?

I tried adding Google Play Music as an experiment, but it's not playing audio. So I'm not sure what the web browser included is, is there any possible configuration options to enable for instance javascript?
<sourceitem name="Audio > Google Play Music" comment="Play the Google Play Music of the file playing" url="https://play.google.com/music/listen#/sr/%ARTIST%-%TITLE%" icon="icon.google"/>
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on June 23, 2018, 10:35:47 PM
Glad you like it scr1m3!
The Web reader uses what Winamp provides as a web browser, basically the Internet Explorer engine (yeah.. that old piece of crap..). I'm not sure if it gets updated with system updates, but IIRC my last tests with Windows 10 improved a lot on how the Web reader performed -maybe it was just luck and it may not be related-, the message "you're using an old browser" dissapeared when using YouTube inside Web Reader.

Let me check that and test with Google play and I'll reply back here again.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on June 23, 2018, 11:12:20 PM
My internet is wacky today, but it's mostly like you say, Google Play doesn't do well with Web Reader, you can only use it to search for an artist but playing something is not working. In case you wonder, this is the line I used to have the Google play search:

<sourceitem name="Google Play music" comment="Google Play music" url="https://play.google.com/store/search?q=%ARTIST%%AND%c=music" icon="icon.generic"/>

Windows 10 does have a better handling of sites but not on this case specifically (wonder if it's not something of my internet today...).

Not ideal, but the only thing I can think of in your case is to use the "Open in default browser button" (top right corner, next to the Web reader address bar). Also, if you want to totally avoid internet searches to use the Web Reader, you can go to Skin preferences > Web content > Open links in: default browser. Hopefully in a not so faraway future DrO can figure out an option for WACUP to internally use another browser engine =).
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: dro on June 24, 2018, 01:30:44 AM
Hopefully in a not so faraway future DrO can figure out an option for WACUP to internally use another browser engine =)
Are we sure we want to open that can of worms? I know there are some alternate embeddable browser engines but we start getting into a rabbit hole by trying to use them.

Winamp has historically relied upon the webbrowser control that Windows provides (which is essentially an embeddable IE) as that's almost always present on the machine without having to contend with bundling an installer engine with Winamp (we'd be looking at a hefty install size increase from what I remember of it being looked into a few years back).

Maybe it's something that can be supported depending on what the user installs themselves instead of it being done by default. As I think the OS webbrowser control is fine for basic web aspects (like is done for the podcasts view) but ideally proper content should be viewed in a modern browser but I never really liked browsers embedded in skins, heh.

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on June 25, 2018, 01:09:07 PM
Are we sure we want to open that can of worms? I know there are some alternate embeddable browser engines but we start getting into a rabbit hole by trying to use them...

Yeah... no. What I would prefer is a stable, fully working "link opener", so the potential of web services is not wasted, and Winamp / any skin can attend needs like lyrics and music info without requiring extra plugins or manual edits solutions. But I'm sure the time needed to achieve that is not worth it.
Ironically, on mobile, the tendency seems to be this one precisely, to not take the user out of the app, Gmail, Twitter, Instagram, etc open links "internally", using the system default browser (at least on Android L and O). We're obviously miles away from such integration (in terms of available resource and technology), but I like to mix perspectives XD.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: dro on June 25, 2018, 03:37:18 PM
It depends on the plug-in / aspect of Winamp that's being used as there was an effort to try to use the in-skin browser for things instead of just opening externally (which is then what happens for classic skins). In some ways moving away from having things open in winamp/wacup might be the better approach though if it's a reasonable feature then maybe we can work out a better solution to find a happy middle-ground :)

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: OpalMonkey on June 27, 2018, 10:23:04 AM
And for those of you using the skin, I'd like to know how you're doing with it now that a month has passed. Is it working fine? Does it have all the features you need? Did someone jumped from Big Bento to Modern? (is there anything you miss then?) Is the size good enough, or a bit more would be better?

Hi Victhor!

I just found this skin tonight (randomly checked out DrO's Twitter account and noticed it there) and I'm loving it! It feels very clean.

Till now I haven't really gone searching for skins. Years ago I just set up the Winamp Classic skin the way I liked it and proceeded to get set in my ways. This skin, with a slightly tweaked version of the Winamp Classic colour theme that was included, makes for a perfect replacement!

(http://u.cubeupload.com/OpalMonkey/t/gON44l.png) (https://u.cubeupload.com/OpalMonkey/gON44l.png)

I'm curious, is it possible to adjust the font size in the Media Library/Playlist sections? The current size is perfectly functional and fits lots of information in. Sometimes it would just be nice to bump it up a size so it's a little more comfortable to read.

If I come across any issues or think of any suggestions after using it for awhile, I'll be sure to let you know.

Aside: Seeing as how this is my first post here, I'd just like to give a big thank you to both you, Victhor, for the skin, and DrO for working on WACUP. I remember my brother and sister both using Winamp almost 20 years ago and when I started doing more on computers, Winamp was what I turned to. For the last 15+ years, it's given me everything I've needed for playing and managing my music. Even with trying other media players, nothing works as well or feels as right as Winamp, and it's great to see people keeping it alive. So thank you both (and anyone else doing the same) for that.

Now I'll stop trying to derail the thread :P
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on June 27, 2018, 05:55:03 PM
I just found this skin tonight (randomly checked out DrO's Twitter account and noticed it there) and I'm loving it! It feels very clean...

Awesome, and thanks for the donation too! I take it like a personal achievement to move people out of the old classic skin XD (joke aside, I like it because it means Winamp can have a whole new meaning for people like you, getting a new way of interact with a player that most people see as already dead -but that can have another "life" this way-).

I'm curious, is it possible to adjust the font size in the Media Library/Playlist sections? The current size is perfectly functional and fits lots of information in. Sometimes it would just be nice to bump it up a size so it's a little more comfortable to read.

Totally, that's in Winamp's preferences. See the screenshot for a quick reference (where font is grossly oversized just to show the effect), or try an even faster way by using hotkeys: Ctrl. AND Numpad "+" to increase size font or Numpad "-" to decrease.

If I come across any issues or think of any suggestions after using it for awhile, I'll be sure to let you know.

Please do! For me, support is part of the deal on being an active skinner!

Aside: Seeing as how this is my first post here, I'd just like to give a big thank you to both you, Victhor, for the skin, and DrO for working on WACUP. I remember my brother and sister both using Winamp almost 20 years ago and when I started doing more on computers, Winamp was what I turned to. For the last 15+ years, it's given me everything I've needed for playing and managing my music. Even with trying other media players, nothing works as well or feels as right as Winamp, and it's great to see people keeping it alive. So thank you both (and anyone else doing the same) for that.

Now I'll stop trying to derail the thread :P

Derail and talk as much as you want, we're happy to see new people here. Specially if they have good taste in media player and skins! =)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: OpalMonkey on June 28, 2018, 01:38:07 AM
Awesome, and thanks for the donation too! I take it like a personal achievement to move people out of the old classic skin XD (joke aside, I like it because it means Winamp can have a whole new meaning for people like you, getting a new way of interact with a player that most people see as already dead -but that can have another "life" this way-).
Winamp better continue getting new lives! (where's the 1-Up emoji when I need it?) I can't imagine having to move away at this point. So many thousands of hours of music played... I've even made some small custom programs to make things work just how I want (custom controls, songticker, volumeticker, etc.). I'm sure that's kind of the standard for people on these forums, but it's great knowing there are still people keeping it alive.

Totally, that's in Winamp's preferences. See the screenshot for a quick reference (where font is grossly oversized just to show the effect), or try an even faster way by using hotkeys: Ctrl. AND Numpad "+" to increase size font or Numpad "-" to decrease.
Thanks! Just 1px up makes it much more comfortable. And here I was thinking that would be a theme setting. Silly me. Guess it's been too long since I did a proper pass through the settings. I must have been to that page before since the font is set to my usual favourite, but I don't remember it at all.

Derail and talk as much as you want, we're happy to see new people here. Specially if they have good taste in media player and skins! =)
I'm not a frequent poster on forums, but I'm sure I'll be back here to try and derail the odd thread of people with similarly good taste.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: dro on June 28, 2018, 09:46:49 PM
Aside: Seeing as how this is my first post here, I'd just like to give a big thank you to both you, Victhor, for the skin, and DrO for working on WACUP. I remember my brother and sister both using Winamp almost 20 years ago and when I started doing more on computers, Winamp was what I turned to. For the last 15+ years, it's given me everything I've needed for playing and managing my music. Even with trying other media players, nothing works as well or feels as right as Winamp, and it's great to see people keeping it alive. So thank you both (and anyone else doing the same) for that.

Now I'll stop trying to derail the thread :P

Derail and talk as much as you want, we're happy to see new people here. Specially if they have good taste in media player and skins! =)
OpalMonkey: I think victhor has said it all but a thank you again for the kind words & support you've shown both of us as its always very much appreciated.

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on July 21, 2018, 09:08:44 PM
Hi everyone, as per some requests, I'm adding an alternative visualization style, changing the horizontally mirrored + duplicated one for a single, (a bit smaller) Visualization like the old one. What do you think would be the better wording here? "Traditional Visualization" / "Old Visualization Style" / "Legacy Visualization Style"? Other?
See GIF for a better idea (and actual implementation):

(https://getwacup.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=327.0;attach=563;image)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Juanus on July 21, 2018, 10:10:10 PM
Classic visualization.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on July 24, 2018, 04:25:41 AM
And by overwhelming advantage.. The winning choice is.. "Classic visualization"! XD
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Juanus on July 24, 2018, 06:42:23 AM
When someone drops greatness in your lap, there is no need for further input.  XD
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Azuryth on August 29, 2018, 12:39:51 PM
Hello !
It seems your skin doesn't like 192 KHz audio files, it's cut :S
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on August 29, 2018, 01:01:54 PM
Boy I never even knew there was such a thing other than 44 / 46 (48?). What's that? A video file? Flac?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Azuryth on August 29, 2018, 01:19:34 PM
It is flac, Hi-Res flacs are at 96 or 192 KHz

192 KHz is actually way too much, but I like those huge ... numbers, heh
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on August 29, 2018, 01:20:49 PM
Heh. . Will give it more space for the next release.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Juanus on August 29, 2018, 01:24:15 PM
Next release?  ;)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on August 29, 2018, 01:29:38 PM
Yeah! And I think we're even talking about a 1.1 version! XD
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: dro on August 29, 2018, 01:48:54 PM
oooOOOoooooohhhh :)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Juanus on August 29, 2018, 02:09:40 PM
You know you are doing something when you get DrO excited!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on August 30, 2018, 03:16:44 AM
You know you are doing something when you get DrO excited!

(https://data.whicdn.com/images/243333345/original.gif)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Parshift on September 13, 2018, 09:45:03 PM
Any way I can make this skin a little less resource hungry? Or make WACUP itself run smoother?
It really taxes my computer, which is pretty high end for Winamp. Makes everything a little laggy, hangs my mouse every now and then.
But since this is the only skin that works beautiful on 4K monitors, I'm not willing to switch :)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Azuryth on September 13, 2018, 09:49:20 PM
Did you check how much resources it is actually using ?

I don't have that kind of problem on an UHD monitor
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Parshift on September 13, 2018, 09:52:03 PM
I think I assumed it was the skin, as I had read somewhere it might be a little heavy.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Azuryth on September 13, 2018, 09:57:36 PM
It is using less than 100 mb of ram for me, so if it is really using much resource, there's a problem somewhere (that's why I suggest you to check what it is using in the facts)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on September 13, 2018, 10:01:46 PM
..I had read somewhere it might be a little heavy.

Hah I said that, but may not be the case. It works slow for me on my laptop, but hiper fluently on my win 7 desktop pc. So far you're the only one seeing it so slow (and me, but I'm convinced now that my win 10 laptop is at fault.. I know why..).
Anyway, try to disable background cover on File info view, that's a big cover (1000 x 1000 px) changing every now and then and it can be the cause of some slow downs.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Azuryth on September 13, 2018, 10:14:13 PM
Talking about background cover reminds me that I had to show you that problem if the cover is not a perfect square (on the screenshot)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Parshift on September 13, 2018, 10:23:19 PM
Sorry for wrongfully pointing fingers, I've updated some mobo drivers and all is smooth now. Went from around 20% constant cpu to about 2%.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on September 13, 2018, 10:38:54 PM
Sorry for wrongfully pointing fingers, I've updated some mobo drivers and all is smooth now. Went from around 20% constant cpu to about 2%.

Great!

Talking about background cover reminds me that I had to show you that problem if the cover is not a perfect square (on the screenshot)

D'oh I thought I fixed this already but I can see now that I only did for vertical covers (I.e. DVD/BluRay style covers). Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: JustAMachine on September 15, 2018, 12:21:56 AM
Love this skin! Looks great!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on September 15, 2018, 12:23:28 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: hanschke on September 18, 2018, 07:30:47 PM
hope it will be the new standard skin :D
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on September 19, 2018, 01:17:12 PM
hope it will be the new standard skin :D

Heh, originally the skin was aiming for something like that, along the way it became so much more that now I'm not so sure if most people will like it..
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Juanus on September 19, 2018, 01:22:58 PM
What?!?!? 
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Pawel on September 19, 2018, 01:44:35 PM
Heh, originally the skin was aiming for something like that, along the way it became so much more that now I'm not so sure if most people will like it..

The skin is one of the best I ever saw... It is great work. It depends on DrO if he like to make it default.
I have only one issue with the skin - loading time. But, I suppose it can not be fixed - more options, more time to process it - I vote vor more options :P
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Juanus on September 19, 2018, 02:43:07 PM
default...  default... DEFAULT!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: dro on September 19, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
Lets take the default skin discussion over to https://getwacup.com/community/index.php/topic,382.0.html as there's a few things that the talk this morning has made me think off but am sure there's more / better options :)

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: MarkRH on September 19, 2018, 09:14:24 PM
Looking at it again and perhaps I'm an idiot, but how do I change the Multi-function Button back to opening the media library?  None of the options seem to do it and clicking on one that's already checked just stays checked. Where's the setting stored?

Well, the arrow button on the bottom will open and close it so that's fine.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on September 19, 2018, 10:39:00 PM
.. how do I change the Multi-function Button back to opening the media library?  None of the options seem to do it and clicking on one that's already checked just stays checked. Where's the setting stored?

There is no option to open ML, what you may have hitted was the Open Bookmarks option, which opens the ML straight on the Bookmarks section, UNLESS you just open Winamp and the Library is still unloaded, then it just opens the ML (a second hit then would open bookmarks).
I'm fixing this behaviour for the next release.

Settings are stored on studio.xnf.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: MarkRH on September 19, 2018, 11:26:58 PM
I know what happened.  It was initially set to Open About Winamp which opens the Media Library because that's my default action for clicking the Lightning Bolt in the Prefs.  When I set it to that, then it opens the Media Library.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on September 19, 2018, 11:48:23 PM
Ah, that explains it.
Anyway, I'll try to add a dedicated option for ML and PL on the next release.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: MarkRH on September 20, 2018, 04:28:37 AM
Wacup 2008 and v1.02 of the skin. Think I found a bug when maximizing the skin. The playlist content doesn't move properly. It gets put into the File Info area while the Playlist portion is blank.  I am in Windows 7 Pro, Classic Skin.

Before:
(http://i.imgur.com/idE8g8Bm.png) (https://imgur.com/idE8g8B)

After:
(http://i.imgur.com/YdFixalm.png) (https://imgur.com/YdFixal)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on September 21, 2018, 02:54:16 PM
I can't replicate it, anyone else seeing the same? (it's a weird bug, I've never even seen redrawing issues since I started doing the skin..). Is there any plugins besides the ones included on WACUP?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: MarkRH on September 21, 2018, 07:47:37 PM
My setup is shown here: https://www.markheadrick.com/wacup-info.php

Extra plugins are:
Classic Spectrum Analyzer   vis_classic.dll    1.0   32.00 KiB
AjaxAMP   gen_AjaxAMP.dll    3.3.0.1   1.15 MiB
TipTop   gen_tiptop.dll    -   12.50 KiB


Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Pawel on September 22, 2018, 03:53:42 PM
Big Bento Modern / Big Bento Modern Windows 10 Edition (1.02)
Winamp opens external browser and built-in browser at the same time.

When I use Help Menu and for example choose option: "Winamp Help F1" Winamp opens
external browser with the following address: https://getwacup.com/community/ -> It is OK (as Skin Settings-> Web Content is set to Open links in default browser).
But, in the same time Web Reader view in skin is opened and I see about:blank in address (it displays album content).

If I use "Send FeedBack" option, Winamp opens external browser and activate Web Browser view with the same content...
It is a bug. I should open external browser or built-in browser (not both!).

-Pawel
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on September 22, 2018, 07:04:44 PM
Big Bento Modern / Big Bento Modern Windows 10 Edition (1.02)
Winamp opens external browser and built-in browser at the same time..

Yeah this is fixed on my working build, in fact I think Darren helped me with it. Thanks for pointing it out!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Juanus on September 22, 2018, 07:11:47 PM
That's the version that is going to be included in the next WACUP install right?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on September 22, 2018, 07:13:20 PM
Yep, that's what I intend.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Juanus on September 22, 2018, 07:14:47 PM
:) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Abhijit A on October 02, 2018, 02:16:42 PM
When a song is playing if you right click on song ticker select any option View file info/Jump to file/Sent to click and drag the menu option to divider on left or song time display. the entire WACUP closes without saving the current setting. no error is shown. it behave like a normal close but without saving setting. i was not able to reproduce it in Big Bento or Modern skin. happens only with Big Bento modern or Big Bento Modern Light, even the right click on menu option and drag has same effect
This behavior happen often if window size is less than 500Px. when song is playing or paused this will happen 5-7 out of 10 times. but when in stopped mode happens 2-3 times in 10 tries.

Windows: 10 64bit 1803build 17134.285
WACUP: Fresh Clean Install 2800
update using Beta update from About/Update
No skins installed other than Big Bento Modern & Modern light
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on October 02, 2018, 02:45:28 PM
..and drag the menu option to divider on left or song time display..

And drag what? The divider between the songticker and the Multicontent area? (File info / Playlist info /Visualization..). Can't get it to show.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Abhijit A on October 06, 2018, 08:06:10 AM
rightclick to get menu in songticker, click+hold and drag the menu item (File info / Playlist info /Visualization) to time display or on divider between time display and song ticker
it will close the app without saving any settings
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on October 06, 2018, 03:51:12 PM
Thanks for posting / replying, I get it now. It's a strange thing to do with the mouse (IMHO dragging onto another option of the same menu is more likely), but it's probably fixed on my working build since I changed a bit how those options work, and can't replicate it, no matter what I do.
If anyone can replicate it please report!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: Abhijit A on October 08, 2018, 04:21:20 AM
Thanks for posting / replying, I get it now. It's a strange thing to do with the mouse (IMHO dragging onto another option of the same menu is more likely), but it's probably fixed on my working build since I changed a bit how those options work, and can't replicate it, no matter what I do.
If anyone can replicate it please report!

It was accidental, I was trying a few option but the mouse key stuck that's when i found this.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: ssechaud on November 22, 2018, 06:42:17 PM
I usually don't mess with skins, but this skin is pretty nice! Is there an non-big version? I like to keep as much screen estate as possible focussed on browsing the library and playlist windows so a smaller player window would be cool too.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on November 22, 2018, 10:43:10 PM
I usually don't mess with skins, but this skin is pretty nice!

Cool! Glad you like it, hope this is the beginning of a new taste for Winamp skins =D.

Is there an non-big version? I like to keep as much screen estate as possible focussed on browsing the library and playlist windows so a smaller player window would be cool too.

Well, that would defeat the purpose of this skin, there is no such version. I'd suggest you to look for cPro skins, which are minimal in space with an arrange of windows similar to this skin (much more flexible actually), here you'll find several (including some I did) >> https://www.deviantart.com/customization/skins/media/winamp/wamodern/popular-all-time/?q=classic+pro&offset=0

PS: WACUP already has support for cPro skins ;)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: rubby on December 02, 2018, 06:52:00 PM
This skin is really incredible, and has helped me convert from that dreaded iTunes. Since I'm so new to this, I've had a lot of learning experiences along the way. It's incredibly customizing friendly, and I'm having issues with one thing- is there a way to show Title listings in the audio view? Having the breakdown of Band-Album is dope, but breaking it down further to Track listing would be incredible. Might be asking too much here, but don't know until you ask!

Thanks again for making this. It's truly incredible.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.02
Post by: victhor on December 03, 2018, 03:33:39 AM
This skin is really incredible, and has helped me convert from that dreaded iTunes. Since I'm so new to this, I've had a lot of learning experiences along the way. It's incredibly customizing friendly, and I'm having issues with one thing- is there a way to show Title listings in the audio view? Having the breakdown of Band-Album is dope, but breaking it down further to Track listing would be incredible. Might be asking too much here, but don't know until you ask!

Thanks again for making this. It's truly incredible.

Thanks! I'm glad you like it so much! The column you'd like to have is not handled by the skin, is actually handled by Winamp / WACUP. You should post it as a thread (if it's not already requested) on the Wishlist section of this forum >> https://getwacup.com/community/index.php/board,4.0.html
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.12
Post by: victhor on December 18, 2018, 01:50:19 PM
Don't know if it's noted enough on my never - ending explanations but this release has a lot of WACUP customizations, including "not found album art" images (where you'll normally find a simple Winamp logo) =)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.12
Post by: dro on December 18, 2018, 02:03:49 PM
I think you've kept the wacup specific changes a bit quiet 😉

It's so good to see the skin updated & out there as I know it's been a lot of work to get here 👍

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.12
Post by: Der_Rio on December 26, 2018, 10:07:27 PM
Really cool skin! Thank you!

I guess I've found some bugs.
1. I've aktivated Autoplay/Time restore options. If I close Winamp and start it again then the small timers below the big one are gone,
2. I've activated the integrated Waveform Seeker. If I switch to the Windowshade Mode and back then the waveform disappears. But in the options the integrated Waveform Seeker is still active.

Anyway, good work!

(I'm using the latest WACUP 3140)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.12
Post by: victhor on December 26, 2018, 10:49:01 PM
Good catch, I think I can fix both bugs pretty easily.
Note though that the wording on the option for the Waveform seeker says "Use Integrated...". That's the action, what the option does, enabling will integrate and disabling it will leave waveform seeker on its own window (independently of its visibility). What you mention still shouldn't happen, but I feel I should note it for future readers =) .
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.12
Post by: victhor on December 27, 2018, 04:35:37 AM
v1.1.3 Changelog:
Fixed = [WACUP users] Small timers not showing when using Autoplay (thanks Der_Rio!).
Fixed = [WACUP users] Integrated waveform seeker stays visible when switching from Shade mode (thanks Der_Rio!).

;)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.12
Post by: Juanus on December 27, 2018, 04:44:07 AM
Are we able to see time as hh:mm:ss properly yet?  ;)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.12
Post by: victhor on December 27, 2018, 04:53:30 AM
I'm having second thoughts on the matter.. Maybe it stays as it is :P
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.12
Post by: Juanus on December 27, 2018, 04:59:34 AM
This is Christmas. Not April fool's day.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.12
Post by: ssechaud on January 02, 2019, 10:02:04 PM
Is there a way for me to hide this left panel?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.12
Post by: victhor on January 03, 2019, 01:19:32 AM
Hi, not from the skin's options, but a modded script would achieve the effect. How much you want it? Is it acceptable to have it as a total closure on click but still have the arrow to open it? Or you want it permanently hidden?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.12
Post by: Juanus on January 03, 2019, 01:31:53 AM
Wow! You can do this?
I like the little buttons on the side but it is amazing what you can do
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.12
Post by: ssechaud on January 03, 2019, 02:38:17 AM
Hi, not from the skin's options, but a modded script would achieve the effect. How much you want it? Is it acceptable to have it as a total closure on click but still have the arrow to open it? Or you want it permanently hidden?

I think the arrow to open it is fine, and I think just having an option to hide the icons, like we can chose to hide the text, would be nice.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Der_Rio on January 04, 2019, 03:11:45 AM
v1.1.3
Fix for smal timers and shade mode switching confirmd!

And I realy like the hour digit in big timer!
But the big timer with hour digit for remaining time is missing the minus sign.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on January 04, 2019, 03:16:54 AM
Are you suuuure?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Juanus on January 04, 2019, 03:18:54 AM
Whomever suggested that hour digit in the big timer is a GENIUS!!!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on January 04, 2019, 03:22:50 AM
I keep thinking.. why haven't I thought of that??? XD
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Juanus on January 04, 2019, 03:25:16 AM
It's so good that it's obvious.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Der_Rio on January 04, 2019, 06:11:52 AM
Are you suuuure?
Yes I ammmmm! ;)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Juanus on January 04, 2019, 06:23:17 AM
Something is up because the small numbers don't get the minus sign.
From my tests the small numbers do not change on click, only the big numbers do.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Der_Rio on January 04, 2019, 06:32:58 AM
The notification for streams has overlaying title and artist.

My screen resolution is 1920x1080.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on January 04, 2019, 11:45:51 AM
You should probably re-download the skin and remove old folders before placing the new ones, something is wrong because, like Juanus said, small timers don't show Remaining time, only simple-forward time and total time (I've just tested and it's fine). And the notification issue, if it is the one I'm imagining, should be fixed already:

"Fixed = (Notifications) Playing video when "Show album tag" is ON, no longer shows overlapped text."
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Der_Rio on January 04, 2019, 02:31:24 PM
Where can I re-download the skin?
For now I've deleted everything in
C:\Program Files (x86)\WACUP\Skins
and then re-installed WACUP as full install. Skin properties show BBM version 1.1.3.
But still the same issues.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: dro on January 04, 2019, 02:37:52 PM
I've just double-checked from my side & the latest BBM files I was given to ship should be being installed (git vs clean install is showing identical BBM files).

Maybe it's something about the sizing of the window that's still causing the issue? (best I can think off from the partial screenshots)

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on January 04, 2019, 03:23:02 PM
But still the same issues.

Nope, re download the skin may be not enough. I don't like to suggest this so often, but deleting studio.xnf should fix it (normally located at c:/users/USERNAME/Appdata/roaming/wacup)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Der_Rio on January 04, 2019, 04:00:31 PM
I don't like to suggest this so often, but deleting studio.xnf should fix it
Sorry, I havn't read all of your posts. So I have not known this. 0:-)
Do I have to delete this file every time I install a new WACUP with a new BBM version? If so, maybe dro should add an option to delete this file in the setup (for the beta versions)?

I've deteted this file now.
The notification bug still exists. BUT not with my local tracks. Just with this radio stream:
https://ndr-ndr2-niedersachsen.sslcast.addradio.de/ndr/ndr2/niedersachsen/mp3/128/stream.mp3

The timer bug is still there, too. BUT I've found out that the minus is only missng if I play a track longer than one hour!
So for tracks
< 1h: -0:12:34 (remaining time)
> 1h: 1:12:34 (remaining time)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on January 04, 2019, 04:21:25 PM
Sorry, I havn't read all of your posts. So I have not known this. 0:-)

Nahh it was just a self-nagging because of how often I found myself on that position heh..
Do I have to delete this file every time I install a new WACUP with a new BBM version?
Nope, only when A SKIN setting gets stuck. Modern skins save their preferences (window position, hidden components, etc) in that file, and sometimes it gets too "dirty". When deleting it, Winamp creates a new one (on closing) with fresh skin settings (your old settings get lost).
 
... I've found out that the minus is only missng if I play a track longer than one hour!..

THAT'S THE KEY, I'm seeing it now. Will be fixed for the next build!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Der_Rio on January 05, 2019, 03:10:56 AM
And it's me again. :-)=)
If I click on the visualization I can just toggle between Spectrum Analyzer modes _OR_ Oscilloscope modes.
If I want to swichtch between Spectrum and Oscilloscope I have to go to Preferences|Skins|Classic Skins|Clasic Visualization and change the settings.

Activating or deactivating Classic Visualizaion in the right-click context menu dosn't seem to change anything (or I'm too stupid blind ;) ).
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: dro on January 05, 2019, 03:21:18 AM
Hmm, the classic skin vis options shouldn't be having any effect on modern skin settings...

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Der_Rio on January 05, 2019, 03:33:21 AM
Hmm, the classic skin vis options shouldn't be having any effect on modern skin settings...

-dro
I was surprised myself ...

BTW I see what the conext menu "Classic Visualization" does: switching between mono and stereo view. (So I WAS stupid blind ... ;-( )
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on January 05, 2019, 06:11:33 AM
If I click on the visualization I can just toggle between Spectrum Analyzer modes _OR_ Oscilloscope modes.

I noted this, it's not working under WACUP, stopped working a couple of builds back, think I've pointed it out on the Discord server (or not, maybe it was only on my mind hah). What I didn't noticed was that it was linked to the preferences on classic skins =/ .

Activating or deactivating Classic Visualizaion in the right-click context menu dosn't seem to change anything (or I'm too stupid blind ;) ).

Actually, the "modern" visualization is a stereo vis MIRRORED on the right. It should reflect left and right channels but those params are broken on Winamp (never worked actually).
And precisely because those params are broken, some users suggested to use a simple vis (not mirrored), which I did, using a wider/thicker "band", but a slightly shorter total width. All these may not be quite noticeable on high resolutions.. (I can tell the difference in a heart beat, but I'm the author... XD )
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on January 05, 2019, 07:08:05 PM
By the way, I can't replicate this issue anymore (2 different setups, Win7 and Win10), seems like fixed on my end, but it may be random. And I did a clean install with Preview build so that might have fixed it..
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Der_Rio on January 05, 2019, 09:37:36 PM
I did a clean install with WACUP v1.0.0.3174. But I'm still having the missing minus with track over 1h.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on January 05, 2019, 09:39:19 PM
I was referring to the Visualization issue. The missing minus will be fixed for the next build of my skin.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Der_Rio on January 05, 2019, 10:25:34 PM
OK. But I can't sense any difference with the Visualization bug (no switching between osci / spectrum) with the clean install either.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on January 07, 2019, 05:30:59 PM
OK. But I can't sense any difference with the Visualization bug (no switching between osci / spectrum) with the clean install either.

I'm trying to discard possible triggers for this issue, can you please try with the attached file? You'll have to place it (overwriting) on your Big Bento Modern/scripts folder (not Win10 version) and refresh Winamp (F5). Let me know if this fixed the issue.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Der_Rio on January 07, 2019, 08:44:40 PM
I tryed your new file. But it dosn't make any difference. :( Still no minus for remaning times >= 1h.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on January 07, 2019, 08:55:25 PM
No, check the visualizer issue
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Der_Rio on January 07, 2019, 09:20:40 PM
Sorry, stupid me. But I'm a bit sick these days.
Can NOT switch between Oszi / Spectrum by clicking on the visualizer. Still have to use the Classic Skins Prefs.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on January 07, 2019, 09:24:12 PM
NP, I guess the outcome is the same, but can you try with right - click menu? (right-click on the visualization area of the skin). Does it work switching from there?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Der_Rio on January 07, 2019, 09:46:02 PM
Yes, right-click menu has the same result. :(
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: dro on January 07, 2019, 10:10:26 PM
The missing minus will be fixed for the next build of my skin.
Its also going to need a WACUP update to help get the hh:mm:ss case working correctly. As there's a bug in gen_ff where only if the number of hours in the longer format is zero that you see a minus symbol (it counts down correctly but will miss the minus off what's output & isn't something the skin can fix afaik).

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on January 08, 2019, 03:52:14 PM
Its also going to need a WACUP update to help get the hh:mm:ss case working correctly.

It's ONLY going to need a WACUP update, it's a total win on your side XD.

What I do need to do is a patch for a non-WACUP install, since the bug will still be present there. I'm not sure I'd be able to do that.. (I can show/hide an isolated minus sign based on a detection of a Winamp/WACUP install, but IDK if I can make it appear ONLY on a >1hr timer..
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Juanus on January 08, 2019, 04:01:03 PM
I say you just leave it alone and let it be a winamp bug. Let them figure it out. Not that they care anyway.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: dro on January 08, 2019, 04:01:12 PM
Just drop the additional mode support for non-wacup installs ;)

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on January 08, 2019, 04:15:46 PM
Good idea, specially now that WACUP is public, no one has any excuse to not jump on board..
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Koolio on February 28, 2019, 04:02:29 PM
I like that Wacup has a waveform for the timeline to seek, its much better, sadly I've always found the layout of bento to complete suck, why on earth is there not a skin where the timeline/waveseek covers the entire length of the gui, that way you can stretch it out as much as you want.

Closet I remember wa  MMD3 which was designed this way, and then ofc most the much better cPro skins.. actually really glad cPro is built into Wacup, haven't tested it yet, though I presume the cPro extensions will work aswel right?

Is there any docs on skinning and making your own cPro/Wacup skin? or better yet could anyone implement the waveform seek timeline into the my favourite cPro skin https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/winamp/1640/ imo the most slickest of skins, hard to fault, though the lack of proper media icons would be a one fault.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on February 28, 2019, 10:56:14 PM
MMD3 has (almost) side-to-side timeline? (actually called seeker) From memory I would say it covers 70% of the NON-RESIZABLE GUI (unless you're only referring to the cPro version). Compared to that, Big Bento Modern can cover some more I think (see attach). But if you don't like the overall layout then there's no use for that heh.

PS: Yes, cPro extensions are supported, it works just as on the original.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Koolio on March 01, 2019, 10:33:57 AM
Well I've always considered bento to be pretty ugly in design, but would like to find some way of modding in that wavebar seeker timeline into the cpro insomnis skin, I just need some pointers on where to get started as bento isn't even a cpro skin and I have no idea where to start with skinning winamp.

Kinda wish was a modernized winamp skin system that just use html/css much like electron based apps.. would be great and cross platform, would be a huge boost to a newer skinning system for winamp.. the current xml based one is just so messy and the lack of being able to inspect elements and just do css styling is so much more easier.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: dro on March 03, 2019, 05:45:52 PM
Kinda wish was a modernized winamp skin system that just use html/css much like electron based apps.. would be great and cross platform, would be a huge boost to a newer skinning system for winamp.. the current xml based one is just so messy and the lack of being able to inspect elements and just do css styling is so much more easier.
There's nothing to stop someone making just that but the issue is more in whether you are then going to have people actually using it. Cross-platform isn't all that helpful unless the base player is able to support it or it's taken on by other players as a more standard skinning solution (which imho is probably not going to happen with the current state of play).

The other approach would be to transpile modern skins into something newer but you're then still in a position of effectively writing 2 skin engines - the new one & one that does the transpiling between what we have now & what is needed for the new solution. Maybe that is a better solution for the long term (as it's a viable thing for Milkdrop / AVS presets) but it's still got to have interest from people to start coding it & the additional is does having an effective browser as the ui make sense (my initial thoughts are marred by the demise of songbird which was doing just that).

Will leave victhor to help with the other part of the post as he knows better about what needs to be considered.

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Koolio on March 03, 2019, 11:40:32 PM
Well maybe it isn't ideal but there is really only 3 reasons I still use Winamp these days.. one is my medialibrary and second is the chapterlist plugin for cpro and I guess 3rd is cpro single gui type skins, trying to make in something similar to all that winamp in that foobar garbage isn't that easy.... both medialibrary and chapterlist have been in use for many years and have so much data on the music I play that its hard to just move to another media player.

Still I've been thinking starting a pet project using javafx or Unity for a crossplatform media player and just re-implementing chapterlist its such a simple extension but so useful for me, and with the direction Unity is going with supporting low end stuff better on mobile and also the Project Tiny, I dunno maybe just make my own is the way to go..at least I could design the frontend the way I always wanted and I never minded a single gui, winamps detachable windows only ever worked for classic skins and I never really cared for it much as I always wanted the medialibrary and playlist in view (playlist also never bothered supporting tabs an inimproved playlist view like aimp or foobar) and then cPro ext and skins worked so well.. but none of these modern skins for winamp were all that friendly for people to make new skins or customize layout...

 maki and xml are just not great anymore to use, bit of dying art doing anything for winamp in terms of skinning or even plugins... so yeah glad Wacup exists it will hold me out for a while, plus I'm on win10 and the official winamp is broken with cpro, but for me I see cross platform (linux/android/ windows) being where I'd rather go and have a media player that works across them all and not having to find some inferior one to use.. I'm still so shocked spotifiy media player is so bloody crap and they get shittons of money.. so adding support for that (ie premium account support can use the api to get complete songs) would also be a thing to do (I believe there is already a unity asset supporting that functionality so it would be a good start) .. not even a fan of electron can't stand javascrap over usage in the industry but the chrome dev inspector works so well and css/html element layouts are something anyone could get into making skins for so that's really the only reason I mentioned it, but yeah it wouldn't be easy to support.
 
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Abhijit A on April 17, 2019, 04:13:01 PM
I have observed that while using Hindi Unicode language in song title, the upper portion of the song title text is cut in the file info section of the skin. The song ticker shows the song title properly. please see the attached image.  This happens only in file info area. all other places (Playlist & Local library) shows the song title properly.

Similarly the file info artist Unicode text is cut at the bottom edge.

For the reference; the Hindi language have character having  accents below & above standard text size. Attaching another image to show the spacing needed above and below. this image might help in knowing size requirements for line height

edited for Attachment sequence: Unicode _Display shows the file info and song ticker where text is being cut. Unicode_Extends shows the character size requirement ffor reference
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on April 21, 2019, 04:09:10 AM
Thanks for the heads up, I'm glad to see my skin is being used in Hindi too (and more or less making the cut heh). I'll see what I can do about it since that part of the skin (File info's text lines) is one of the trickiest. Hopefully I'll be able to increase the line height without moving the actual text position too much.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Abhijit A on April 22, 2019, 03:14:01 AM
Thanks for the heads up, I'm glad to see my skin is being used in Hindi too (and more or less making the cut heh). I'll see what I can do about it since that part of the skin (File info's text lines) is one of the trickiest. Hopefully I'll be able to increase the line height without moving the actual text position too much.


Thanks for acknowledgement. this can be on low priority as we can easily read the words. i wanted to help; to make this skin a really perfect one. It's already a good skin for daily use. i have stopped using other skins.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Tom White on May 02, 2019, 07:25:58 PM
I have just started (okay, maybe a week ago) using WACUP and really like it so far. I also like the looks of the Big Bento Modern skin, but have one problem. On my meager laptop it takes about 25 seconds or so to load the program when using this skin. Other skins (Big Bento regular, or Classic or Modern skin) might take about 9 seconds or so. Is there anything I can do to speed up the loading of this skin? I have tried disabling various plug-ins just in case they were contributing to this. Now granted, my laptop is not the speediest and has some age on it, but it is what I have. Would increasing the RAM help any? It only has 2gb but can be upgraded to 4gb if that helps.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on May 02, 2019, 11:16:58 PM
@Tom White Hi, I'm glad you liked my skin too. Sadly, there's little I can do to ease the load. Before releasing the skin I've tested it on various PCs (some with similar specs) and load time seems generally ok but is quite heavy on others (a lot, for my taste). Never managed to find out what's causing it exactly.
I wouldn't recommend you to upgrade your memory just for this skin, but 2gb is quite too low for most apps nowadays (9 seconds for the other skins is also a lot!). If you find another reason to upgrade it and the money is there, then go ahead.

In the meantime, you can send me a Private Message and maybe we can work out a quick solution based on the stuff you use/need mostly so I can disable the rest and see if that works, or guide you to know what would be what's taking so much resources of your laptop.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: dro on May 03, 2019, 10:41:14 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if it's hitting the swap file on loading if it's taking that long. Am going to guess there's also a standard hard drive in the machine (aka spinning rust) ? Laptop hard drives are notoriously slow which isn't going to help when they're getting thrashed due to the expected memory swapping (ironically I was seeing such things when trying to clean up an ~5 year old laptop yesterday though that was for any software & I'd not given WACUP a go on it due to time pressure).

WACUP does try to change a few things which can help reduce the loading time but a lot of the slowness of modern skins are just down to the inherent design of the modern skin engine & there's a lot to do before I've got something basic that will be able to try to load them that itself doesn't suck. Maybe Vic can come up with something that at least helps out a bit but without lobotomising the skin, I'm not sure there's much that can otherwise be done sadly in your current position.

-dro

p.s. How long does it take for it to load with a classic skin ?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Tom White on May 03, 2019, 01:28:52 PM
Thanks to both of you for your responses. A bit more information about the laptop - It has a 1.6ghz intel celeron processor and , the drive is not a "spinner", but rather one of the small drives that most laptops come with these days. Can't think of exactly what they call them these days but I think SSD comes to mind?

Anyway, with the Classic skin, it loads in about 4 seconds. When playing music, task manager shows WACUP barely using any CPU or memory resources. With that in mind, I have to think it is not "stressing" the CPU or RAM but rather is taxing the machines graphics capabilities? I guess another thing to consider is my music (a bit more than 5000 songs, split between FLAC and MP3) is stored on a USB 3 thumb drive. Once loaded the music is accessed very quickly so I don't think the program is waiting on that.

Anyway, thanks again for the work you guys do on all of this.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: dro on May 03, 2019, 01:44:21 PM
Ok well if it is an SSD then I'd have expected the classic skin to load quicker than that. Can I ask what age the machine is as SSDs in laptops still aren't a common thing (at least not for what I was looking at over the past year especially when you drop down to the Celeron ranges unless it's been an option &/or changed later on).

There's so many variabes as to what could be going on from A/V software being slow to scan & allow things to go to just something about the machine really not liking things (it happens) through to the network connection being slow for the initial update check (though I've tried to mitigate against that due to delaying when it's done by default so that's probably less likely to be it).

Bit of a head scratcher though not helped that the modern skin engine has always liked fast speedy setups as it does a lot of things in order instead of asynchronously which if there are slowness can make the skin take a lot longer to load than would be liked.

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Tom White on May 03, 2019, 05:24:57 PM
I may have been wrong about the type of drive in the laptop. Instead of SSD does MMC make more sense? Either way, it is one of the small ones they put in these things. Like 32gb small.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Juanus on May 03, 2019, 08:53:07 PM
I'm curious as to what model of laptop you have there. I'm confused as to the specs you are listing. Would you giving us the make and model? Maybe a link to it's website?
Thanks
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Tom White on May 03, 2019, 08:55:38 PM
Sure. It is a Dell Inspiron 14 Model 3452.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Juanus on May 03, 2019, 09:17:00 PM
Thanks. That helps!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: scr1m3 on May 25, 2019, 08:03:24 AM
Had a quick look online, it seems that your laptops has 32GB of eMMC storage. It has 1 SODIMM slot that takes up to 4GB DDR3L.

I would strongly recommend upgrading the RAM to the 4GB.

You could also look into ways of disabling unnecessary Windows features. You can look here for some tips. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVy4GAtkh7Q

The issue as other have mentioned is that Windows will be swapping memory to disk, which will hurt performance. It doesn't have sufficient memory to store the OS as well as the applications you might want to run such as WACUP or a web browser.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Tom White on May 26, 2019, 05:42:03 PM
Had a quick look online, it seems that your laptops has 32GB of eMMC storage. It has 1 SODIMM slot that takes up to 4GB DDR3L.

I would strongly recommend upgrading the RAM to the 4GB.

You could also look into ways of disabling unnecessary Windows features. You can look here for some tips. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVy4GAtkh7Q

The issue as other have mentioned is that Windows will be swapping memory to disk, which will hurt performance. It doesn't have sufficient memory to store the OS as well as the applications you might want to run such as WACUP or a web browser.

Thanks for your reply. This laptop may be a bit under powered, but no other program I use operates as slowly as Winamp/Wacup using the modern Bento skin. The regular skins do fine, browsers are quick as are programs like LibreOffice, so I don't know what to say.

In the end it is all OK. I have no problems with using the classic or Big Bento or older Winamp Modern skins. Not losing any sleep over it.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: WorseDoughnut on June 17, 2019, 02:31:17 PM
Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I love the skin with one simple caveat:
I really wish the "Collapse Window" toggle was a lot wider and a little thinner, something like 80% of the width of the window at any given time. I'm trying to avoid having to move my mouse all the way to a very specific, pretty small, location on my monitor when i want to toggle

From what I can gather by looking at the skin files, it's all loading from the various xml files, so I was wondering if someone could point me to correct file/location (or even the variable / element / etc. name) that I should be looking for to go about making this change. I would very much appreciate any help.

I attached a mock-up of what I'm trying to achieve.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: WorseDoughnut on June 17, 2019, 02:56:30 PM
Okay, so update:
I've found that it's a matter of editing the width (w) value of the button element at the bottom of player-normal.xml.

The only issues are:
 - no idea how to make it relative / scale in real time w/ the window width
 - it seems the arrow image is not independent from the width of the button. so it's scaling with my edit and looks about as awful as you'd expect.

I'll keep experimenting.

----

Okay, scratch that. I'm apparently only scaling the visual portion. The clickable element is staying the same size. Hmmm...
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Juanus on June 17, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
I have a question...  you want to make that one button bigger so you can hit it.
Why don't you change the setting so that the WHOLE title bar becomes the button and you can doubleclick on the title bar to make it collapse?
see screenshot.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: WorseDoughnut on June 17, 2019, 03:06:27 PM
Why don't you change the setting so that the WHOLE title bar becomes the button and you can doubleclick on the title bar to make it collapse?

Because that's not the same functionality at all. That toggles the "shade", not the "collapsed window".
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on June 17, 2019, 03:09:18 PM
Yeah, the option Juanus pointed out has a different effect, let me see if I can make a quick change of what you want.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Juanus on June 17, 2019, 03:11:34 PM
Yes, I did not completely understand what was trying to be accomplished.
carry on.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Juanus on June 17, 2019, 03:13:59 PM
would it be satisfactory for that whole bottom title bar to become a doubleclick area. That way it would mimic the top title bar?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: perrobg on June 27, 2019, 11:04:53 AM
The skins is really nice, but is there is a way to make time and artist/song font smaller (white and the orange in attachment)?
thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on June 27, 2019, 01:20:44 PM
The skins is really nice, but is there is a way to make time and artist/song font smaller (white and the orange in attachment)?
thanks in advance!

Glad you like it! Winamp has some options precisely for this;
- Go to Preferences > Modern skin > Font rendering tab and play with the items as seen on the screenshot attached.

NOTE: If you want to use the same skin font, go to the skin's folder / fonts and install the Oxygen ones before doing all the above.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: perrobg on June 27, 2019, 01:51:02 PM
Thank you! You are  the best! :)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: zag2me on July 07, 2019, 10:14:26 AM
Thanks for this, I love the skin. My new Default :D

My only request would be to somehow integrate some graphical speakers on either side to make it look cool ;)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Dime on July 18, 2019, 05:23:30 PM
I want to say Thank You Victhor for this great skin!

I have few questions. First how to change notifer size, looks so huge? :)

Maybe is someone ask before, i am really lazy to read all posts.
I am new here and this is my first post. Hi all
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Dime on July 18, 2019, 09:06:25 PM
Default notification size (max size) is 695 x 150
In my opinion is better smaller for example 500 x 125

What you think Victhor and other guys?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: Robd2018 on July 19, 2019, 04:08:21 PM
was asked by the community for a better time font, since i had one installed on my pc i was asked to share it by the developer
so i have attached the font for all
to use you can use the skin font mapper
or if know deeper can add it there
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.13
Post by: victhor on July 28, 2019, 10:18:22 PM
Ooofsss.. I'm so behind on replying here.. sorry, let's catch up:


was asked by the community for a better time font, since i had one installed on my pc i was asked to share it by the developer
so i have attached the font for all..

Thanks Rob!





@zag2me: Adding that officially would go against the spirit of the skin heh (extended functionality, fewer distracting elements), but soon I'll publish a way for users to get customization on my skins.

@Dime Notifications size is aimed to high-res screens, size is obviously arguable I guess, but you're the first pointing such thing, so I should point you to the last part of what I said to zag2me, customization is on its way ;)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.14
Post by: victhor on August 16, 2019, 11:34:09 PM
Main post updated to include v1.1.4, which was shipped with WACUP some weeks ago (though I had it ready some months before).
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.14
Post by: blacklord049 on October 18, 2019, 07:45:37 PM
I've noticed that the songticker still displays a wrong bitrare (eg for a MP3 3200 kbps instead of 320 kbps, or is it in bps format ? ;) )
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.14
Post by: victhor on October 18, 2019, 08:09:22 PM
Actually is just a place holder with a large number for when the music is stopped, for some reason Winamp doesn't handle to the skin engine the bitrate of the current song unless it's being played.
I thought about using something like "xxxx" but looked weird, the same with repeated numbers (1111, 2222). So I settled on 3200 and 40 something for Frequency.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.14
Post by: dro on October 18, 2019, 11:40:58 PM
What's being used to query the bitrate? As it should be possible via atf unless it's something else that's pre-determined.

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.14
Post by: victhor on October 22, 2019, 04:58:26 PM
From original script (songinfo.maki):

string getBitrate ()
{
   string sit = strlower(getSongInfoText());
   if (sit != "")
   {
      string rtn;
      int searchresult;
      for (int i = 0; i < 5; i++) {
         rtn = getToken(sit, " ", i);
         searchResult = strsearch(rtn, "kbps");
         if (searchResult>0) return StrMid(rtn, 0, searchResult);
      }
      return "";
   }
   else
   {
      return "";
   }
}


Sounds like a really complicated method since there is getPlayItemMetaDataString(bitrate) or getMetaDataString(String filename, bitrate), but I'm sure there's a reason for it..
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern - final release v1.14
Post by: dro on October 22, 2019, 06:39:44 PM
Querying the current item for the information & then reverting to the above if there wasn't anything provided would probably be a better option. As most of the input plug-ins can return the bitrate (unless it's stream or a less commonly used 3rd party input plug-in).

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: victhor on January 22, 2020, 02:43:00 AM
Updated OC with v1.1.5 and Maki scripts sources.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: victhor on January 22, 2020, 09:52:58 PM
Stupid me... new build, just a single file I missed to update on uploaded files. New version is 1.1.5.1, see second post for details.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: AIrbee on February 02, 2020, 09:47:16 AM
First of all, thanks for the skin, its awesome!

I am really new to all of this and i noticed something weird...

When i try to show the notification with the global hotkey, it only works if the song has an album cover. When i disable album cover in general, it still only works on those songs with a cover. On song change it always shows the notification, regardless of the album cover. How can i fix this? ._.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: victhor on February 02, 2020, 02:46:13 PM
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it.What you mention is weird indeed, but I can imagine a possible solution, I'll check it out later. In the meantime can you test if Bento / Big Bento work as expected on this regard?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: victhor on February 03, 2020, 01:37:03 AM
First of all, thanks for the skin, its awesome!

I am really new to all of this and i noticed something weird...

When i try to show the notification with the global hotkey, it only works if the song has an album cover. When i disable album cover in general, it still only works on those songs with a cover. On song change it always shows the notification, regardless of the album cover. How can i fix this? ._.

Interesting... I've made some tests and aparently is a wide spread Winamp bug, I replicated it on Big Bento, Winamp Modern, cPro skins, etc.

Have you ever seen this work in a skin? Which one?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: Angelistick on April 27, 2020, 09:31:40 PM
Hi, I have been having trouble getting the skin t work at 100%, (I love it by the way, It is awesome, it really updates like 10 years of winamp to "almost" new era of media playing), the problem I have is that I cant get the Integrated Waveform Seeker to show, am I doing something wrong? Is there a need for a plugin or something? I had tried at first with the official 5.8 winamp stock and only the [Big_Bento_Modern_by_Victhor_v1.1.5.1.zip] from this forum, then after having no luck with the waveform seeker and after reading that is suggested 5.666 I reinstalled with the ThumperDC release, and then installed the WACUP build 1.0.9.5144. At first I tried using the .zip directly (oops) and everything was stock except that I moved the skins directory to my downloads folder, after no luck unistalled and reinstalled winamp 5.666, wacup, and then overwrite the Big Bento Modern skins folders, (still no luck, the about skin shows the waveform but there is no option for it and only gets showed on the separated window, I only see the clasic seekbar), deleted the studio file from user directory and (almost) success! the option for the integraded waveform appeared, ticke on and off and on again and... nothing, just classic seekbar. What am I doing wrong, am I missing something, I looks so cool that I wanted it so much. I am a winamp user since its beggining, new to wacup and a Surfece Pro user. Any help will be really apreciated.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: victhor on April 27, 2020, 09:46:37 PM
Did you double checked that Waveform seeker is installed? (see in plugins - General purpose). This plugin is a WACUP exclusive feature (due to many reasons), you have to enable it when installing WACUP, I mention this in case you're trying to use the separate, older, plugin which is lying around somewhere the net.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: Angelistick on April 28, 2020, 03:02:35 AM
Did you double checked that Waveform seeker is installed? (see in plugins - General purpose). This plugin is a WACUP exclusive feature (due to many reasons), you have to enable it when installing WACUP, I mention this in case you're trying to use the separate, older, plugin which is lying around somewhere the net.
Ok, now I feel retarded, thank you so much. Just right click, wafeform seeker and thats it, just as easy as that. Six installs and unistalls could be avoided with a simple right click, a simple right click...
I had the wafeform seeker windowed once, I think that the option to integrated waveform seeker apeared after deleting the studio file because I played with the skin options a lot searching for it and didnt have it (I think). Thank you so much, this gives winamp a ressurection for me.

On another topic, is it possible to have Left and Right dedicated response in the integrated spectrum analyzer?, the mirrored one looks way better than the original but it kinda lost a point when songs with hard LR panning and beats gets reacted as mono.   
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: victhor on April 28, 2020, 03:10:45 AM
..is it possible to have Left and Right dedicated response in the integrated spectrum analyzer?, the mirrored one looks way better than the original but it kinda lost a point when songs with hard LR panning and beats gets reacted as mono.   

Kinda yes, right click on the visualizer and select Classic Visualization.
That's 2 out of 2, I deserve a donation! XD
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: Angelistick on April 28, 2020, 03:53:06 AM
Of course you do. But I meant having the Lch react and Rch react at the same time, like in the mirrored visualization, not just a channel. The same, but different, but same.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: Eris Lund on April 28, 2020, 04:11:15 PM
Of course you do. But I meant having the Lch react and Rch react at the same time, like in the mirrored visualization, not just a channel. The same, but different, but same.
I've tested in both WACUP and Winamp 3 (including the first Beta) the feature to display both channels respectively, sadly, it never worked.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: victhor on April 28, 2020, 04:19:02 PM
Thanks, that was the kind of testing I would have do if I had the time XD. So it doesn't work from the Winamp 3 days to this Winamp 5.666 era...
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: 440hercios on May 02, 2020, 05:57:15 AM
Oh, muchas gracias Victor por haberme nombrado por mi aporte de encontrar aquel pequeño error en las barras deslizables, en que la primera decía "Bajos" (lo cual está ok), pero la otra decía "Graves" y debería decir "Agudos".

Saludos!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: victhor on May 03, 2020, 12:33:30 AM
Oh, muchas gracias Victor por haberme nombrado por mi aporte de encontrar aquel pequeño error en las barras deslizables, en que la primera decía "Bajos" (lo cual está ok), pero la otra decía "Graves" y debería decir "Agudos".

Saludos!

Ja! De nada! Me acuerdo que cuando vi el aviso sobre el error no lo podía creer, es un error que ha estado ahí desde hace siglos y nadie lo había visto.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: DiaBomb on August 07, 2020, 09:49:33 PM
I have noticed that when I click from another active window into the WACUP window while it is maximized, it suddenly gets unmaximized. As a result, if the unmaximized window is too small, the playlist editor, which I have expanded, disappears. This seems to only happen with this skin.

EDIT: This also happens simply by clicking once on the album cover in the playlist editor or the info panel for the song playing.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: victhor on August 07, 2020, 10:47:54 PM
The PL closing is by design, when a PL button doesn't fit, it closes.
The other thing shouldn't be happening if it's a simple click, are you sure you're not dragging a bit when clicking? The skin is specially set up to be easily moved from "empty" places..
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: DiaBomb on August 07, 2020, 10:49:57 PM
The PL closing is by design, when a PL button doesn't fit, it closes.
The other thing shouldn't be happening if it's a simple click, are you sure you're not dragging a bit when clicking? The skin is specially set up to be easily moved from "empty" places..

Nah, I checked. I did not move the mouse and It happens every time.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: Aminifu on August 08, 2020, 05:28:16 AM
I have noticed that when I click from another active window into the WACUP window while it is maximized, it suddenly gets unmaximized. ...

I don't understand how you can do this. Isn't the maximized WACUP window covering all other windows?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: DiaBomb on August 08, 2020, 10:18:53 AM
You can open a small file explorer window in front of the maximized WACUP window if it's not set to always-on-top. Or you could just use a dual monitor setup.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: SleepZombie on August 15, 2020, 04:38:48 AM
Looking for this skin for Streamripper.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: dro on August 15, 2020, 02:23:06 PM
Streamripper doesn't support the standard skin support which is why it's not automatically matching the skin you're trying to use.

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: neralex on October 10, 2020, 12:12:31 PM
Stumbled across scaling issues with winamp on my new 4k screens to this skin. It works great. Thanks for this. And also a big shout out to DrO for his great work on WACUP. Now I found time to test it finally. Cheers. ;)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: ScoobydooNZ on April 09, 2021, 10:36:35 AM
I know this is an old topic but I've just wanted to get Winamp installed on my new laptop, and have been so fustrated that the standard install is so small, and even trying to use the built-in skins don't expand very well.

I used to love the Winamp Modern skin but the interface is far too small, almost un-usable so I searched for Skins that I can download / install to help ease the issue, and I was led here.

I downloaded these skins and installed them, and while it works, whenever I try to move / expand the size of the interface, I get an application error popup and the Winamp application shuts down.

I had to download and install DirectX, and so I re-started the laptop in case that was in, but alas, I still get the error message. This happens regardless of which of the 4 packaged skins I use.


I have gotten the app working okay by using a different Skin, the Winamp Classic Modern, however I do like these packaged skins so if there was a way to get them working, that would be great.

Maybe if you're unsure about the error message and wanted help in trying to fix it, I could help in testing?

Thanks, Paul
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: victhor on April 09, 2021, 11:20:07 AM
mmm.. it's not a typical skin error, seems related to the Visual C++ install (that's DrO's field). Do the traditional / old Bento skins work fine?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: Eris Lund on April 09, 2021, 11:46:40 AM
Are you using Winamp 5.8 by any chance?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: ScoobydooNZ on April 09, 2021, 07:04:00 PM
mmm.. it's not a typical skin error, seems related to the Visual C++ install (that's DrO's field). Do the traditional / old Bento skins work fine?

Yes those ones seem to work fine, no issues

Are you using Winamp 5.8 by any chance?

5.8 Build 3660 Oct 19 2018
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: victhor on April 09, 2021, 07:06:45 PM
So, switch to v5.666 or WACUP, I didn't intentionally broke support for 5.8 but that's an unsupported beta, these kind of errors are to be expected..
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: ariszlo on April 09, 2021, 09:14:53 PM
5.8 Build 3660 Oct 19 2018

I am using that version too (along with WACUP) but I experience no such errors. Perhaps, it is because I installed it over Winamp 5.666 (http://www.meggamusic.co.uk/winamp/Winamp_Download.htm).
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: ScoobydooNZ on April 10, 2021, 06:19:04 AM
Okay so now I'm using 5.666 Build 3516 Dec 12 2013 and it seems to be going okay. Thanks.

However I have another question. Is it possible to detach the Playlist and Media Library Viewers from the Player interface?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: ariszlo on April 10, 2021, 11:15:50 AM
I don't think so but Victhor knows best. If you prefer a skin with several windows then you might want to check out Winamp Classic Modern (https://getwacup.com/community/index.php?topic=595.0).
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.1.5
Post by: victhor on April 10, 2021, 07:10:54 PM
Okay so now I'm using 5.666 Build 3516 Dec 12 2013 and it seems to be going okay. Thanks.

However I have another question. Is it possible to detach the Playlist and Media Library Viewers from the Player interface?

Ariszlo is right, no chance here for detachable components, it's a nightmare of a code as it is, let alone allowing some windows to pop out of the SUI.. simply impossible.

A skin that has SUI and windowed components is Kameleon by Leechbite, you should check it out (though, I must warn you, it's not the more stable of his skins..)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: dro on July 07, 2021, 10:14:42 PM
v1.2 is now available & remember if you want to / can do it to give victhor a thank you maybe even as a donation (see the first post).

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: jefftiger on August 28, 2021, 07:59:48 PM
I'm a big fan of the Big Bento Modern Windows 10 edition skin, which I've been running for a long time. I can't recall when this happened, but I no longer see any color in the slider button (not sure of the correct term for this!) in any of the media library vertical scroll bars (Artist, Album, or lower window) regardless of the color theme selected. It's become extremely difficult to see the button so that I control  the scroll bars with my mouse. My recollection is that these used to have a non-black color, depending on the color theme selected. I tried a new install of WACUP, but I still see the same behavior. Am I missing something obvious?
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: victhor on August 28, 2021, 08:30:08 PM
Aaahh it was one of the first changes I made for the latest build (more than a year ago?), so I can't remember the exact reason behind it. It's probably due to how changing color themes on WACUP kept breaking scrollbars (goes black), so I made 'modern' scrollbars look more like 'non skinned' ones (which uses the same gfx as ML buttons and v5.666 PL scrollbar button), so switching between one and the other wouldn't look so different.
Yeah it's like falling on another issue fixing an issue... they do look harder to see I guess, but in my setup it was acceptable enough (though that may not be the case for every monitor / condition). If you have the previous version around, you can try swapping the new scrollbars.png with the old one (it's on 'SKINPATH/Window' folder).
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: jefftiger on August 28, 2021, 08:36:25 PM
Ah, thanks for the explanation. So, it wasn't my imagination! I've found several color themes for which the contrast is acceptable. So, I will live with this minor inconvenience.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: jefftiger on August 28, 2021, 08:56:36 PM
I extracted the skin from an old beta release (probably with a v1.1.5 Big Bento modern release) and did as you suggested - move the scrollbars.png file over. That did indeed work well; the button is filled in making it very easy to view. Thanks for the recommendation!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: victhor on August 28, 2021, 09:01:19 PM
Cool, so my memory is not as f..cked up as I expected XD
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: 440hercios on September 04, 2021, 06:08:11 PM
I love it! Thanks!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: victhor on September 08, 2021, 11:30:51 AM
I'm glad you like it!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: Zonger on October 16, 2021, 04:38:41 AM
Been using Winamp since the AOL days when it would auto install with the dialup programs and this is the best its ever looked!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: victhor on October 16, 2021, 04:54:42 AM
Wow! That's saying a lot! Thanks!
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: brabus on March 30, 2022, 10:49:48 PM
Wow! That's saying a lot! Thanks!
how to do it? New = Album art can be enabled on Playlist Tab now.
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: Der_Rio on January 27, 2023, 09:21:34 PM
Hi!

I am missing the "integrated waveform seeker" option from older Big Bento Modern skins (1.1.5). Waveform Seeker is installed and works as a seperate window. But I can’t find the option to integrate it anymore.
Do I something wrong? Or is it removed from BBM 1.2? If so, will it return anytime?
I'm using WACUP 1.8.18.14282 as portabe install.

Rio  :)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: Eris Lund on January 27, 2023, 11:39:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/SS1Lo2o.png)
Waveform Seeker exists as it should

(https://i.imgur.com/vabn2RZ.png)
And the option to use the integrated Waveform Seeker is also here as well
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: Der_Rio on January 28, 2023, 02:04:30 PM
Hmmm, thats strange. It's not on my version:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bb69Rfg9/No-Waveformseeker-Menu.jpg)

But Waveform Seeker itself is installed and working as seperate window:
(https://i.postimg.cc/5yRdVK7H/Waveformseeker-Installed.jpg)

Any idea?

Rio :)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: Der_Rio on January 28, 2023, 02:30:38 PM
I could fix the problem!

Because it's a potable install I have to "Allow WACUP to use the OS registry as required" (in Preferences|Advanced|Portabe Mode).
(https://i.postimg.cc/jdLxgmZY/UseOSReg.jpg)

Rio :)
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: dro on January 28, 2023, 02:51:21 PM
That doesn't make sense as there's nothing that should be needing to touch the OS registry when it comes to a skin specific option. As trying with the option enabled & disabled, toggling the skin provided option has the window going from being integrated to external & back again with it following the expected state. Only thing I can otherwise think of is that there's a conflict from another plug-in present but that should still exist irrespective of that option being set *confused*

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: Der_Rio on January 28, 2023, 08:54:21 PM
OK. I couldn't reproduce the "use OS registry" method.  :-\

So, I made a backup of my WACUP_portable folder. Then I deleted it and reinstalled latest WACUP as portable (full install). But again, no "Integrated Waveform Seeker (IWS)" option!  :o
Then I copied bit by bit from the backup to the new install.
That way I found out what was the problem:
There has to be a file
WACUP_portable\Settings\WACUP_Tools\koopa.ini

It doesn't matter what's in the file - even a 0 byte file does it.
If that file is missing (or renamed) then there is no IWS. If I recreate a file with that path and name, the IWS reappears.
100% reproducible on my system.

Rio  :)  ???
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: dro on January 28, 2023, 10:31:36 PM
Ah, I see what's going on. I'll need to edit the patching that's done on the skin version checks to avoid that (really can't remember why that file got picked with this skin for "winamp" vs wacup version detection).

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: Eris Lund on January 28, 2023, 10:44:44 PM
I could provide a patch for BBM with the version check I do for DeClassified (as seen here (https://github.com/0x5066/DeClassified/blob/main/scripts/IsWACUP.m)), only with Victhor's OK
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: dro on January 28, 2023, 11:17:12 PM
It's not just BBM that has this issue & there's old versions of the skins that I know are being used which are still affected. So even with a better implementation for the skin, I've still got to make changes on the core side to deal with this.

Really I need to find a way to provide a proper skin script call to use to check than all of these file existence checks as they don't work 100% but that still involves the skins being updated & means the old ways need to be dealt with.

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: dro on January 31, 2023, 05:08:46 PM
There's now a generic patch in place for the next beta build to deal with the file existence checks that'll do what's needed irrespective of the file existing or not.

-dro
Title: Re: Big Bento Modern v1.2
Post by: Benco on April 15, 2023, 01:02:47 PM
Hello,

is it OK to do a feature request for this skin?