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Resolved Issues / Re: NTDLL.DLL crash on load (the other computer).
« on: October 09, 2019, 08:38:53 PM »
Also... just a little side note..
Some of my podcasts I've had for years.. same rss/link.
And I am sure they didn't start out with https in file mp3 url..
Yet now they do and work.

Or I would have certainly taken notice...
It was just that particular one that I had my focus on.. not looking at what was working.

Thanks again as always.

Resolved Issues / Re: NTDLL.DLL crash on load (the other computer).
« on: October 09, 2019, 08:17:40 PM »
Yes... live streaming...
But... it looks like that is the only https I am having problems with.
Yes.. I could download.. just not stream that particular podcast

I hadn't looked at my other podcasts that have https in the URL.. because they worked.

I just didn't look at what worked, only the broken Podcast.... and as I had read in the Winamp forums about https streaming or download or whatever and that it was an issue... ie: copy the url, strip the "s", put manually in.

Thusly... that is I just checked other podcast and some have https .
And they are working...

The problem podcast streaming... the error occurs as a "Error syncing to stream" and it times out.
Yet, as you stated... downloading works.

Could be something on their end... not Wacup.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

Resolved Issues / Re: NTDLL.DLL crash on load (the other computer).
« on: October 09, 2019, 07:31:17 PM »
This the feed url I have been using... it still works.. non https

I get the files loaded into the Podcast "playlist".

But "file" urls look like the one below...

If you take out the "s" in http they load... thus my perl script.

They changed a few months ago to the "https" in the mp3
I just double checked on my "good" computer.. so it's the same thing.

No worries...

Resolved Issues / Re: NTDLL.DLL crash on load (the other computer).
« on: October 09, 2019, 08:56:14 AM »
The "skin splash screen" did show up on some install attempts.
On my main computer where install was successful on first attempt.. I can't quite honestly remember if I saw it or not.. it probably did.

On the many attempts on the problem computer it would occasionally show during the crash... on the latest successful install it didn't.. the computer probably had the install "stuck" in memory... whatever..

Over the last few years I would occasionally  come over here and peak at the development..
and finally gave it a go... I'm stoked with the progress.

For the Podcasts... I am not sure if "https" is supposed to be working.. I don't think it is...
I do see an option in the General settings.. for https... I don't think that would apply for my use.

I thought (https was working in Podcasts) but for the one Podcast that requires it...
I still had my Perl script as the link to access that Podcast.
The Perl script I run goes to the actual feed/rss and dynamically gets the page stripping out the "s" .   I mentioned this before.
In Winamp/WACUP , I just point to the perl script "url"..
Certainly not rocket science but it works...

I know https has been an issue for a long time with Winamp... and the generic work around is to "view file info" , strip out the "s" , and manually enter the "url".

I don't know much about "ssl" certificates... and certainly don't know how difficult and or how to implement into Winamp/WACUP... I imagine it's not so simple.

Certainly don't go about tackling the issue on my behalf,
 in your progression of development, as it is not really a problem for me.
If you would like the script for personal use let me know and I will send it to you.

Thanks again.
Have a great day.

Resolved Issues / Re: NTDLL.DLL crash on load (the other computer).
« on: October 08, 2019, 11:30:35 PM »
You have a achieved success !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
with the latest build today.

I dropped in my playlists and podcasts..
and my modified skin Modern ProStak II

I am not sure if I didn't notice it before...
In the Playlist Editor... there is a teeny tiny version of the equalizer flashing.
I may have read here somewhere that is a known issue.. certainly not a "deal" breaker..

Also.. not sure if you have a specific reason.. but when you first install WACUP..
and launch... the default skin appears to be Classic 2x -> Classic Winamp.
It looks great... but there is no "scaling."
So it is rather small on my monitor...
Although... I think most people coming here are not first time Winamp'ers.
So they would know about changing skins and scaling... to adjust their choices.

Congratulations on the success :-)
Thanks again !

Resolved Issues / Re: NTDLL.DLL crash on load (the other computer).
« on: October 07, 2019, 11:09:41 PM »
Well... what do ya know :-)
first time I ever did a "portable"...
just threw in a spare flash thumb drive and installed...
And we have success !

in my many reads about ntdll.dll one person had an issue with a game and they moved it to an external drive and they had success.

I hate to have bothered you with the issue... but glad I did to try the "portable."
Hopefully that helps you investigate the issue for others too.

No hurry to get to the original install issue resolved for me... as I now have a fix if perhaps a large streaming (radio) company moves to "https" and my existing 5.666 starts failing.

Thanks again.

Resolved Issues / Re: NTDLL.DLL crash on load (the other computer).
« on: October 07, 2019, 09:56:02 PM »
thanks again..
on the problem computer.. the program barely starts.. but a .dmp file is generated.

occurred in both 1.07 and 1.08
file sent by email...
attached file is named:


Resolved Issues / NTDLL.DLL crash on load (the other computer).
« on: October 07, 2019, 07:22:12 PM »
Successfully installed on my first computer... which, has many, many, more programs running.

Windows 7 Professional addition.

Second computer... after many re-installs...
extensive research... on ntdll.dll file etc etc...
Updating Windows etc etc..
I tried putting different versions of the ntdll.dll file on the second computer etc.. etc...

I ran the Wacups systems reporter and there didn't show any conflicting plugin's and all looked good.. you know the "green" dots vs "yellow and red" ones.

I don't think there is much anybody could tell me at this point.. after all my testing.

So Dr. O... don't go crazy trying to resolve this... nobody else is having this problem.

I try to start Wacup.. occasionally getting splash screen to try update..
and then the notice that it won't start and conflict with ntll.dll
Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:   APPCRASH
  Application Name:   winamp.original
  Application Version:
  Application Timestamp:   52aa753e
  Fault Module Name:   ntdll.dll
  Fault Module Version:   6.1.7601.24520
  Fault Module Timestamp:   5d673e60
  Exception Code:   c0000005
  Exception Offset:   00031d86
  OS Version:   6.1.7601.
  Locale ID:   1033
  Additional Information 1:   4c0d
  Additional Information 2:   4c0d4d78887f76d971d5d00f1f20a433
  Additional Information 3:   4c0d
  Additional Information 4:   4c0d4d78887f76d971d5d00f1f20a433

I've tried the latest two versions.
tried installing with the original file removed from the computer.. etc..

I didn't try installing in "safe mode" but I did try running in the "computer's" safe mode,
and also tried msconfig to start computer with fewer programs running.

Just throwing this topic out there.
from all that I have learned.. a of conflict with another driver.. .

the unfortunate situation is that the computer I want it on is my "media" computer for playing music and videos.

Playlist sorting...
nothing specific in reality... except for my personal preference in what is on top of the list.. the most used.

For example... I listen to a lot of radio stations.. way more than my actual music playlists.
One list for talk, one for favorites, one for reggae, one for bluegrass... etc etc..
Over the years of listening to internet radio.. I developed methods for extracting the actual stream.. as opposed to the html/flash players etc that websites push their streams.
And Shoutcast also provides links to the streams..
And thusly built my radio playlists... which I liked on top.

I saw the Internet Radio link in WACUP.. so I'll be looking at that for some new listening stations.

My music playlists are named alphabetically... with prefixes such as b- , c- , r- , etc etc for their genre.
So sorting those lists are intuitive with the simple clicking of the sort button.

Before you had helped me... I renamed my radio lists with the prefix "+" , which placed them at the top... when clicking the sort button.
Yet happy to discover the option you pointed out to me..
I did notice a little slower load times.. so I can turn it off and on if that bugs me.. but it doesn't.

Over here.. I have an FM Transmitter that I can send the sound to all the radios in the house... made by CCRANE company... good but expensive as things are these days... it's getting rather old but does it's job.
I also have a "remote" on my phone(s) that I can also control Winamp through the WiFi if I am out of the room.
Have not tried the "remote" with WACUP but should work.

Winamp is on my phones (2), two tablets, and two computers.
I have been around since the Commodore 64 computers, BBS dialups when no real internet... and FIDO net back before we knew the internet as it it today.
Not a programmer.. but I "smash" around at things to get them to work... learned some perl to get by, xml, php, etc etc.

HTTPS... this darn internet thingy... always changing to keep us busy... and these darn phones, reinventing how we must display websites..
Oh well...

Thanks again and best regards.

Thanks Dr O  !! :-)
that did it ! 

I wasn't sure if my "just" dropping my playlist might have been the issue... and, or, if dropping in my favorite skin (Pro Stak) broke something.
Super stoked that it was so easy to just get up and running.

And really cool support for "https" files also is working.. especially for Podcasts...
I had actually written a Perl script to grab "https" Podcasts... and ripout the "s" in "https" to delivery them in the old Winamp.   

Also.. a favorite plugin... "streamripper" installed and doesn't seem to have any issues...

Thank you again.

Playlist Drag/Drop ordering in ML.. (this must be just me..)

previous installed version 5.666
Windows 7

I searched and searched here... for this issue.. only one topic I could get close to this was back in 2017.
This must be just me.. or I can't search here for beans...

It's pretty basic.. older version... In ML.. you have all your playlists on the left and you want to move individual one up and down..  just click and hold and drag to new position in the "main" list in ML.

I just started testing.. so I believe I have the latest version here... installed in different directory than original Winamp.

I didn't import my playlist(s).
I just dropped them in the folder, along with the old XML file...

I also installed my previous Skin.. called ProStak 2 (or maybe its 3)..
which works fine... except for this "drag" reorder of a playlist in ML.
I also tested on the installed Skins.. same thing.

Well.. very happy to see this great program breath life again... been a user for a very very long time.

Thanks a bunch Dr. O and all the other programmers.

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