Latest WACUP public preview for x86 & x64 is build #23528 (January 12th 2026) (x86 & x64 changelogs)
Latest restricted WACUP beta release is build #23528 (January 12th 2026) (x86 & x64 changelogs)

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General Discussion / Re: 3DAmp
« on: Yesterday at 02:25:10 PM »
It tries to provide as much of winamp's documented api where it makes sense &/or is needed for plug-ins & external tools to work. There's also things like the default taskbar text referring to winamp even though it isn't using it to run nowadays for helping maintain compatibility for things scraping that for what's playing.

The x64 build isn't as compatible with it just offering up what it needs without a lot of the plug-in compatibility baggage but the basics that most external tools use is still responded to.

I don't have any current plans to provide the wacup specific api as it's mainly aimed at my internal needs nor is it stable vs the winamp compatibility being there for those that need it (sans plug-in support with x64 which I might not support 3rd parties as it just keeps things a lot cleaner unlike the hacks, etc the x86 build has to implement).

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Wishlist / Feature Requests / Re: Remember file name and type
« on: Yesterday at 02:16:38 PM »
That should already be happening. From what specific UI action is it not doing that?

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Skins / Re: Big Bento Modern skin crashing
« on: January 17, 2026, 10:14:45 AM »
What options are greyed out? As the image above is the same as the one from the first post.

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I've been trying to replicate this & the nearest I can get to what might be happening involves disabling the initialisation in that script file & then some of the other methods in the script when triggered will then fail. I can't be certain if that's what your failures to load are or not but it's the only thing I can vaguely find but still suspect it's a bad modern skin settings file.

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Skins / Re: Big Bento Modern skin crashing
« on: January 16, 2026, 07:22:49 PM »
Can you try running the crash report collector option from WACUP's start-menu folder or run wacup.exe /procdump manually from a command-prompt within the WACUP program folder so it can try to collect a crash report as I'm not seeing anything around the time of these posts that relates to a modern skin failure. Though I've feeling it won't collect anything & this is more likely just the modern skin engine plug-in screwing up & not continuing if no windows, etc appear after it occurs.

If it is able to collect something in that mode (there'll have been a command-line window appear which goes away when a crash happens that it can deal with) then you'll need to try to run it normally again & hopefully that'll then auto-submit to the site server what's been collected before it then tries to run & likely fail again as you're seeing.

After that then you'll need to try doing the wacup.exe /RESETMODERNSKINPOS command-line option.

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Skins / Re: Big Bento Modern skin crashing
« on: January 16, 2026, 06:10:05 PM »
What WACUP version are you using (am not seeing any obvious modern related loading crash reports again the current 1.99.45.23528 build)? Clicking on the guru error shown should usually allow wacup to continue running without crashing.

Also have you attempted to use the wacup.exe /RESETMODERNSKINPOS command-line option to reset the modern skin settings configuration file back to a default state to see if that might help (as the re-used gen_ff plug-in from the 5.666 installer is buggy & sometimes it'll just screw up its settings or will for some skins trigger weird scripting issues on loading).

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Preview Build Discussion / Re: Fixed Columns in Internet Radio section
« on: January 15, 2026, 04:13:04 PM »
It's not ok as you're telling me it's behaving in a manner that is at complete odds with how it's been coded & with what I'm seeing in my testing. Please send me a pm with a copy of your winamp.ini & gen_ml.ini files after having tried to set the columns & closing wacup.

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Preview Build Discussion / Re: Fixed Columns in Internet Radio section
« on: January 15, 2026, 03:30:12 PM »
I cannot replicate it resizing the columns within the internet radio back to showing if I've sized them to effectively not appear & had checked that it would save them as zero width before I'd made my reply. If something like the Ctrl+Shift+Numpad Plus action is done to trigger a resize based on the column contents then it's going to show the columns again as that's expected per how the listview is done in other parts of Windows.

If it's not saving their width when you're closing wacup or even just switching to another view & back again (does that behave for you or does it also break?) then my assumption would be something is either preventing the config from being updated or it's not being read back in on loading or something is triggering the column resize action (it's not something I've coded it to do as that would annoy me & is why all of the views be it this or local library, bookmarks, etc will attempt to maintain the last set width) which again I cannot currently replicate with 23528 in either of different x86 & x64 installs.

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Preview Build Discussion / Re: Channel mixer ? Stereo Upmix ?
« on: January 15, 2026, 03:20:52 PM »
It's mainly for adjusting the channels being output so stereo to 5.1 for stereo input or a different way to do stereo to mono if the input plug-in being used doesn't natively support that playback mode. That's all subject to having the needed output device being compatible & the OS vs the output plug-in that's selected via it also supporting it. For some it's not needed if everything is already configured on the hardware / audio driver / OS side but for others it's needed to get what's expected.

If it's actively in use then the input & output levels on that prefs page should be indicating what's being received along with what's being output but that requires the Not So Neo output plug-in to be set as the active output plug-in via the dropdown at the top of the prefs -> plug-ins -> output page. I probably should do something to better indicate that it's not the active output plug-in when viewing that prefs page to avoid that potential confusion otherwise it may or may not be required in use.

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I've added preskip, original samplerate, samples & vendor to the output. Though some of my example files had encoder & vendor report the same value which makes it look a bit wrong due to the duplication but that'll have to be how it is. Have also added vendor to the flac enquivalent as I'd already made vorbis report that. Hopefully that'll be enough as part of when the next preview build update happens.

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Thank you mark. I've had a look & can replicate the issue which luckily for what's displayed shouldn't be causing grouping merges to occur as can happen due to the bug (e.g. having 2021 & 2022 categories will for that menu be treated as 202 & merges them in the sub-menu that's generated - the actual bookmark files aren't affected & that's ok). This'll need a new full build to resolve this problem.

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Preview Build Discussion / Re: Fixed Columns in Internet Radio section
« on: January 14, 2026, 02:38:24 PM »
The columns of the internet radio view are intentionally hard-coded so that's not a bug imho. You can always re-size the columns not wanting to be seen to be zero width. I don't intend on adding an url column though the tooltip will display it.

The last seen column is the last time that the url was reported as existing from the various services. It's there as a means to potentially determine why it may not be working if it's showing as last seen a few days prior & the url is no longer connecting but there is zero guarantee that any of the urls will be valid since it's based on a single snapshot until the next & stations will very often quickly come & go.

The view having multiple genre columns was the simplest way to represent the potential multiple values that might be reported back from the different radio providers vs allowing the user to see what's there whilst also trying to allow column sorting to make some sort of sense otherwise it'd require more re-processing & trying to create some sort of sensible consolidated string vs the mess of data that can already be reported back (which the processing of the db already tries to filter out into something that fits the main genres seen).

As there's no rhyme or reason afaict in the order that many of the internet radio stations set their reported genre values let alone how accurate that information even is to start with (i.e. the first value may not be the primary genre for a stream).

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I'm not sure about having it do it just like the 3rd party plug-in as yes there's space but then just filling it with a load of info also doesn't necessarily help most users.

I'll at least add the vendor entry & see about some of the others shown along with double-checking any of the other ogg related formats so they're more consistent in what's reported where I think it makes sense.

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Can you attach the images to the post please as imgur geo blocks me from seeing them.

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Resolved Issues / Re: [CHANGES MADE] New update breaks beat visualizer
« on: January 12, 2026, 07:37:43 PM »
The preview build has been updated to 23528 which should now resolve this issue in 23518.

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General Discussion / Re: Any way to enable autosaving?
« on: January 12, 2026, 05:56:51 PM »
It shouldn't be crashing at all from those actions & causing you to try to find workarounds which might be what's causing it to occur or can make it fail differently. What build type & version of wacup are you using & does wacup's crash reporter run when it's failing on you?

Ratings go into the local library db which tries to auto save out of needed once there's not been any activity or enough dirty entities are deemed to have occurred.

Library playlists should show a save button on the view or will save out when the action being done to them completes if not within the selected playlist view.

The main playlist with the undo plug-in installed should make backups when any change occurs to it.

I just can't remember if it's on the undo or autoplay prefs page or somewhere else that the timed trigger for storing any changed settings option is still on which would then do the local library save as well. But setting that too often will cause ui hangs & is more likely to trigger a crash.

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