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General Discussion / Re: Last.fm scrobbler info

« on: September 07, 2020, 06:45:30 AM »

General notes for Last.fm scrobbler users
Now importantly you need to update the OpenSSL libs to current secure versions.

This is necessary for all Windows versions, right? Sometimes Last.fm users report problems with the legacy desktop scrobbler on Windows XP, not necessarily with Winamp or WACUP though. And thanks for your summary, I will send WACUP users here if they have problems with scrobbling. 😉

I guess the standalone scrobbler plugin for WACUP is still on the todo list, as I noticed the placeholder message in the settings? Also thank you for explaining the differences between the two names for the plugin, I wasn't sure about that as well.

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Resolved Issues / Re: Discord Now Playing Integration - Updated 23 Apr 2020

« on: April 27, 2020, 04:36:22 AM »

Thanks for your reply. I'm not on Discord that often, so I wasn't aware that there was a difference in available settings between browser and desktop version which would prevent this feature from being enabled/working. I had noticed that some Discord members used foobar that way and was surprised to find that WACUP can also do this. Makes sense if you're into this "Now playing" thing on other sites which is related to scrobbling. There are related options for Spotify and Deezer on Discord, as you might know.

I was also pleased to find that WACUP has a WASAPI and ASIO plugin now, so I could test different things today.

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Resolved Issues / Discord Now Playing Integration - Updated 23 Apr 2020

« on: April 26, 2020, 06:39:03 PM »

As the related announcement is locked, I have to start a new topic about it. I just tried to use this feature, but could not figure out for a while why I could not find any place in Discord to somehow add WACUP to my "game activities", because that is what you have to do as well if you want to show your currently playing song on a Discord server in your profile.

Long story short: the tab "game activity" in your settings only exists in their desktop version, not in the browser version which I normally use. In that tab you can open a dropdown list of active Windows apps in your taskbar (not try to type WACUP), so you can just pick WACUP from there if it is already playing something.

Furthermore I had to disable and enable the related switch there and also click on the Overlay button above the switch, then it would finally work, also in the browser. Closing the desktop app ended the display of the current song in my Discord profile, although I still had it open in the browser.

When it worked, it updated the new song immediately for me, no lag. Maybe this also depends on the number of server members. I tried it on the Last.fm Discord server (about 2k members, several hundred online), as WACUP still lacks a native scrobbling plugin. ;-)

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Wishlist / Feature Requests / Re: Artist / Band Info lookup

« on: September 28, 2019, 01:13:48 PM »

OK, thanks for the reply. :-)

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Wishlist / Feature Requests / Re: Artist / Band Info lookup

« on: September 28, 2019, 10:41:41 AM »

That's why I think it' better to just implement the support directly than rely upon their client solution which as one of the longer term goals is to provide native 64-bit clients means I've got to provide such support where possible otherwise it cripples feature support & that's not ideal.

Either way, I need to move it up the todo list instead of just talking about it

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I'd missed the edits whilst making my reply. That's interesting to know they dropped support even for the favoured fb2k (I can remember when Winamp was in the initial set of clients supported). Having worked a bit on the original standalone plug-in, it's honestly better to just start afresh & have it support the appropriate protocol changes as I'd also have to assume they don't really support them (has been a while since I've looked up what's going on to know for certain what I'd need to look at working with).

There is a new problem with the legacy desktop scrobbler on Windows XP caused by the ongoing move of all Last.fm images to a new host, as this host affords support of the TLS 1.2 protocol with SNI, see Jon's latest reply in this thread. So some users are reporting sudden crashes and/or freezes with the legacy scrobbler on XP and Windows 7 (where TLS 1.2 could be enabled by editing the registry). I guess your stand-alone plugin would circumvent this problem and still support WACUP on XP, right?

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Wishlist / Feature Requests / Re: Artist / Band Info lookup

« on: September 27, 2019, 07:14:13 AM »

Thanks for checking, the current developer who did the modifications for the Catalina/Apple Music version is ben-xo. If you have questions or suggestions, he will probably reply to you on GitHub. I don't know if the staff has any dev resources left at the moment to fix something for the legacy scrobbler and/or plugins, but the upcoming Catalina issue seemed to be urgent enough to release a new version 2.1.39.

I wonder why simply copying the installed Last.fm Winamp plugin to the WACUP Plugin folder did not work for me first, only after renaming the WACUP installation to Winamp. But it's even better of course, and it still works fine now, I could scrobble some ZZ Top albums without problems: https://www.last.fm/user/hjbardenhagen

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Wishlist / Feature Requests / Re: Artist / Band Info lookup

« on: September 27, 2019, 02:17:18 AM »

It's not hard to copy the plug-in over but the user shouldn't need to do that (assuming they've not updated their existing Winamp install to be a WACUP install in the same folder)

The problem with simply copying the plugin to the default Plugin folder is that it still doesn't work with WACUP, but with Winamp 5.8, as the hardcoded path only knows "Winamp", not "WACUP", even if the installer asks about the correct path while installing. I just renamed the directory to Winamp, and WACUP worked flawlessly with the old plugin afterwards. By the way, the installer in the legacy desktop scrobbler also renames the plugin in the internal SFX file from gen_wa2_scrobbler.dll to ml_wa2_scrobbler.dll while installing it.

That's why I think it' better to just implement the support directly than rely upon their client solution which as one of the longer term goals is to provide native 64-bit clients means I've got to provide such support where possible otherwise it cripples feature support & that's not ideal.

Either way, I need to move it up the todo list instead of just talking about it

Right, as mentioned on Reddit, there are still quite a lot of Last.fm users who want to scrobble with Winamp, so I tested the currently available versions on Windows 10 version 1903.

I'd missed the edits whilst making my reply. That's interesting to know they dropped support even for the favoured fb2k (I can remember when Winamp was in the initial set of clients supported).

The reason for releasing a new and leaner 3.1.x scrobbler version were the problems with iTunes versions 12.x, as Apple had changed it significantly which broke a lot of external plugins back then.

Having worked a bit on the original standalone plug-in, it's honestly better to just start afresh & have it support the appropriate protocol changes as I'd also have to assume they don't really support them (has been a while since I've looked up what's going on to know for certain what I'd need to look at working with).

Right, the old 1.0 scrobble protocol has been deprecated, and version 2.0 allows authenticating with your Last.fm account without having to fill in your credentials when connecting/logging in. The connected apps are listed in the related Last.fm account settings afterwards: https://www.last.fm/settings/applications
The source code of the legacy scrobbler is available on its GitHub page, e.g. it has just been updated to the macOS Catalina version 2.1.39 which also supports Apple Music instead of iTunes: https://github.com/lastfm/lastfm-desktop

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Wishlist / Feature Requests / Re: Artist / Band Info lookup

« on: September 27, 2019, 01:28:00 AM »

There'll be nothing to stop you from using the existing last.fm provided solution. I just think for a number of users that going back to the standalone plug-in model (but integrated in as part of Yule Log) is a better choice for having something general that works & depending on needs things can be added or the original tools can instead be used

In fact there is one issue with the legacy Last.fm desktop scrobbler 2.1.37 that would stop WACUP users from scrobbling to Last.fm and/or reading the artist infos of the current track while listening with WACUP: the desktop scrobbler only works with WACUP or any other Winamp version (also 5.8 ) if it is installed in the default directory, i.e. C:\Programs\Winamp\Plugins on 32-bit Windows versions and/or the additional "(x86)" path on 64-bit Windows versions.

I can understand that you do not want to support that, but at the moment renaming the installation directory to "Winamp" instead of "WACUP" seems to be the only way to get it to work with the old plugin (ml_wa2_scrobbler.dll) that comes with the scrobbler and can be installed from its File menu. See the attached screenshot of WACUP scrobbling and also this support thread on the new Last.fm forum: https://getsatisfaction.com/lastfm/topics/is-it-possible-to-scrobble-from-winamp-with-the-desktop-scrobbler

So maybe updating the standalone plugin that would enable scrobbling without the official Last.fm desktop scrobbler would be the better method, at least for WACUP. By the way, the new Last.fm desktop scrobbler 3.1.29.x does not support Winamp or foobar2000 anymore, only iTunes/Apple Music and WMP. You can still download both scrobbler versions on the Track My Music page: https://www.last.fm/about/trackmymusic