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General Discussion / Re: Can WACUP Start & Begin ...
« on: Today at 01:58:34 PM »
Were you suspending the system? If not I'm confused by what you're trying to describe.


General Discussion / Re: Can WACUP Start & Begin ...
« on: Yesterday at 09:02:51 PM »
If it's been closed correctly then the last view state should be remembered between sessions unless you're using a modern skin (that's never properly worked with that behaviour & I don't have any plans to try & patch gen_ff to do it - it'll have to wait until I eventually make my own modern skin plug-in).

Alternatively if you're starting WACUP from a shortcut, the properties on that might have been changed & if you're always wanting it to start minimised (ignoring the modern skin issue) then you can set the 'run' action to minimised to try & force that.

Otherwise most likely the view state isn't being saved out either due to a crash on closing or it not having enough time to complete as can happen sometimes if other actions are being slow in the closing stage.


Wishlist / Feature Requests / Re: Internet Radio
« on: January 21, 2022, 09:41:25 PM »
Not really because that information is not known without re-querying everything at that immediate point in time. What's used is a snapshot that aggregates the services whereas in much older builds it was doing live updates from each client install but that was causing far too many issues from it taking a long time & not being able to complete that I changed it.

To account for delays in when the snapshot is obtained vs transient stations that are there but weren't at the time of the snapshot, it'll also give a few days wiggle room to better ensure something can be shown vs being super strict. This is about the only thing I can really do & may consider an option to only show those from the most recent snapshot (which would risk getting no results if things don't align nicely).

The other issue is that a station being reported via the services doesn't mean it's available or it's there but wasn't at the time of the snapshot & I really don't want to have to start pinging things as a) no one would like me doing it due to the bandwidth hit & b) it's a task that would never realistically be able to complete.


General Discussion / Re: Artist Separator ?
« on: January 21, 2022, 09:05:34 PM »
Separate within what context? Local library search/filters or how things are stored in metadata tags irrespective of how they're displayed?


I've just had a look & I could have done with a bright screen warning when first enabling that mode but I was then able to replicate the issue.

Digging into it, the magic window that's meant to be created by the OS in response to something I have to send to the main desktop window wasn't creating it & so it set the menu item to be disabled. I've since found some different message parameters that seem to work with both normal & high contrast modes so I'll need to do a bit more testing but I think that'll do it & will be included in a future build.


Preview Build Discussion / Re: [WACUP | Shortcut]
« on: January 04, 2022, 08:40:51 PM »
As I've tried to explain, it isn't a supported mode from my side so it not working properly or it doing weird things is to be expected. This is the 'fun' that comes from a public preview release (which in hindsight I should just have called it a beta & the betas be called alpha builds).

I've also re-read things & I got the order of things the wrong way around but it doesn't make much of a difference as either way using the command-line aspects with WACUP is not supported & won't be fully implemented until I'm no longer having to use bits of Winamp for WACUP to run.


Wishlist / Feature Requests / Re: Chromecast Support
« on: January 04, 2022, 04:04:42 PM »
No one has pointed me to a simple nicely licensed implementation that could be used to even attempt to implement this request (I'm not going to hack up VLC source code, etc especially as I think it's then at odds on code licensing). So until there's some nice way to do it from a traditional DESKTOP program it's not going to happen & I doubt Google have done anything to help either as it's all about Chrome/mobile when I last looked.


Wishlist / Feature Requests / Re: Update WACUP
« on: January 04, 2022, 04:02:55 PM »
People do crappy things for numerous reasons even if it's at odds with valid reasons for limiting access but it's all about FOMO or just being a c**t.


I'm somewhat confused how such a theme would even be getting involved with how WACUP's build of Milkdrop works vs desktop mode unless the theme (is it the built-in OS one or something 3rd party?) is somehow messing up things in a manner I've not yet experienced from testing.

The WACUP build of WACUP checks for a specific window existing & if that's not found then it'll disable the desktop mode (is the only thing I do check) which is why I'm curious about what you're using to get the high contrast theme.


Preview Build Discussion / Re: Wacup, Visualizations, on Windows 11
« on: January 04, 2022, 03:54:45 PM »
From a quick read of things, it honestly sounds like it's a plug-in specific issue vs Win11 rather than something that I can really affect under WACUP.

What specific version of the plug-in are you trying to use as there's a number of versions out in the world that I'd need to know that before trying to look into what you're mentioned though I'll note it's a lower priority for now as I've still not gotten around to even attempting to setup a Win11 test VM.


Preview Build Discussion / Re: [WACUP | Shortcut]
« on: January 04, 2022, 03:52:03 PM »
Other than command-line support not being an officially supported feature due to how the WACUP loader & the original Winamp program interact (it's completely broken in the betas) & because its mostly handled by the Winamp core with the noted preview build, if you run it multiple times then it'll reload & restart playback with that command-line string along with bringing Winamp to the front as that's what Winamp does.

The only thing I'd consider changing when I get around to do it is whether WACUP gets brought back to the foreground or not but if you tell it to load a file (single or playlist) then it should always honour that action imho.


Preview Build Discussion / Re: [WACUP | Freezer]
« on: January 04, 2022, 03:47:05 PM »
What skin? What OS? I really need more information about what you're using as well as the file type(s) involved as I've nothing to go on for now.


Wishlist / Feature Requests / Re: Update WACUP
« on: December 29, 2021, 12:24:37 AM »
beta = intentionally restricted because it will have issues (often critical)
preview = snapshot that has non-critical issues that are generally ok & released when I'm happy with it.

and because it's restricted people have FOMO & want it rather than actually helping to give feedback when there's issues (or even worse, spread the builds around when the point is they're not ready for general usage because of the issues but some people dgaf & that just wastes my time & tbqh, I'm fed up of that).


Wishlist / Feature Requests / Re: Update WACUP
« on: December 26, 2021, 09:05:09 PM »
It's only been 286 days (or ~41weeks or just over 9months) between the current preview build & the most recent beta build. As I've already tried to explain, previews are just beta builds that I'm happy for more people to use & that's not been something which has been the case.

I get that people want a new preview build & don't trust beta builds even though previews are betas & based on another direct email complaint I got about this few days ago that maybe I should just call the preview a beta & betas as alphas (since that is closer to the reality of things).

but there are some crashes, and every time I open wacup, the songs in the playlist repeat the previous shuffle list every time I open it That's why I have to re-add folders at every boot.
This is the first that I'm aware of you noting having such issues (unless you've used a different handle / non-forum option to convey it) so maybe it would be better for you to try out the beta...


Wishlist / Feature Requests / Re: Update WACUP
« on: December 24, 2021, 02:33:23 PM »
There's been plenty of updates this year with the betas but I'm not doing a new preview build as it doesn't have everything that's needed to replace the existing preview build & not cause a load of complaints that it doesn't have things that the preview did (e.g. completely broken command-line handling & no artwork within the local library views). Making my own Winamp is hard at times.


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