Latest WACUP public preview for x86 & x64 is build #21136 (March 9th 2025) (x86 & x64 changelogs)
Latest restricted WACUP beta release is build #21136 (March 9th 2025) (x86 & x64 changelogs)


NOTE: Beta testers are added in a limited & subjective manner as I can only support so many people as part of the beta test program to keep it useful for my needs.

Unless I think you're going to be helpful, not all requests will be accepted but might still be later on. Remember that beta testing is to help me & the limitations currently works for my needs for this project.

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General Discussion / Re: Winamp ML import
« Last post by DJay on January 06, 2025, 07:42:11 PM »
I'll answer here. Now everything is in the right place, thanks. I refreshed the metadata for all items and everything still looks fine. I remembered one thing, after I did the import legacy via WACUP the original db files in the Winamp folder was overwritten with an empty one. A backup of the files was created (I made my own anyway) but it was still a disturbing experience. ;D
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General Discussion / Re: Winamp ML import
« Last post by dro on January 06, 2025, 06:57:22 PM »
Have replied to your pm with hopefully complete db files for you to work with.

For you setup the location of the files wasn't an issue but part of my testing had me trying to use a read-only folder & that was helping to show part of the problem since it prevented the conversion of the existing db files to the newer nde based format that I use before being processed for the import action. However the import shouldn't have been attempting to mess with the files & not doing that resolves the incomplete / full failures that I'd been able to replicate as part of the import plus it also makes the importing to be somewhat quicker.
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General Discussion / Re: album art overview
« Last post by DJay on January 06, 2025, 04:52:21 PM »
I understand your approach perfectly. I'm also a dev, but in this case I'm just a long-time Winamp user accustomed to a specific view, so I'm probably not objective.  ;)
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General Discussion / Re: Winamp ML import
« Last post by DJay on January 06, 2025, 04:46:09 PM »
This is good news. I have the files in c:\Users\Me\AppData\Roaming\Winamp\Plugins\ml\
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General Discussion / Re: album art overview
« Last post by dro on January 06, 2025, 04:11:49 PM »
The alternating row aspect isn't implemented because as I went with a more Explorer like approach that ends up looking odder like a chequerboard since there can be multiple on a line unlike what winamp's local library plug-in was doing. What's right I still don't know & tbh it was a pain in the whatnot to get something working that didn't suck on the performance vs OS support which I was generally happy with as a first usable form. I also don't necessarily just want to mimic what winamp's offering of things did as some aspects I never liked when I was a dev / user of it but I get that from a user view point if the outer parts are all winamp-like then there's an expectation for the insides to also be the same or more similar. I'll have a think about it all for when I get back around to doing more on the local library view modes.
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General Discussion / Re: Winamp ML import
« Last post by dro on January 06, 2025, 04:07:21 PM »
I've been able to get it to import it with what appears to be the expected total number of records (14860) along with the view specific numbers you've noted. However there's something odd going on with the import action depending on where the files are being accessed from which I'm trying to figure out at the moment which seems to be the likely explanation of why things didn't seem to import correctly.
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General Discussion / Re: album art overview
« Last post by DJay on January 06, 2025, 03:50:47 PM »
No problem with selected item highlighting. I meant even/odd bgcolor vide Winamp look. IMHO without clear spaces and a separator, the view merges, especially when we want a smaller thumb size, but it's your call  ;)
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General Discussion / Re: Winamp ML import
« Last post by DJay on January 06, 2025, 01:56:19 PM »
I did the import via WACUP import legacy and it's better, but a lot of statistical data was lost in the process. In "Never Played" I have 9021 items vs. 1039 in Winamp out of 14860 in total. More than half of the ratings were also lost, 350 vs. 761.
I'm using Winamp v5.9.2, but I probably started with v1.x. I sent you the files via PM, take a look when you have a free moment. I'd be grateful.
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Preview Build Discussion / Re: Issues opening multiple files?
« Last post by dro on January 06, 2025, 01:27:10 PM »
I already have it set to disallow multiple instances from the settings by the way, so I take it it has to be a bug of some kind.
I'm on the latest public preview build as of this post, is this being looked into on betas? Or has there been attention brought to the issue already, at least?
It's come up a few times though I don't know how common of an issue it might be as I often seem to not get direct reports about issues (aka having to trawl through social media posts) so thank you for taking the time to report it.



If multiple instances are being launched then my first hunch is it might be due to a permissions issue or a form of process isolation which would then prevent the handling that's run on loading to try to find existing wacup instances to fail as that's how that stuff generally behaves afaict. It however doesn't seem to account for how you've described things as seemingly starting all of those instances at the same time instead of it being a gradual cascade from the first to last instance.

My other hunch especially with what you've described about files missing when it is already running could even be due to the processes that have been spawned potentially failing / silent crashing. This might be more likely & from feedback from one tester with the current beta vs issues seen with the preview build seemed to resolve what was a slow / laggy response to start & iirc that was sometimes causing other instances to begin due to the timeout that's in place to deal with hung / failed processes timing out.



One thing you could try out is seeing in Task Manager's details view & sorting by exe name if any werfault instances (windows error reporting handling) are appearing at around the same time as you're triggering trying to get the files into WACUP.

I also could do with knowing what skin you're using & if you're using a modern style skin another thing is to try using a classic skin just to see if the reduced loading overhead of those skins makes any difference or not (I suspect it likely won't & is something else going on).

Final thought for now is if you've got the local library enabled & if so roughly how many items are in it. As going to preferences -> media library & temporarily trying this out with the whole media library disabled might also be useful to rule out some ideas I've got.
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General Discussion / Re: Winamp ML import
« Last post by dro on January 06, 2025, 12:06:24 PM »
I'd really need to know what version of winamp you were trying to import from. As the import action I offer (accessed via the empty local library window or by going through media library window -> library button -> import -> import legacy (external) db) just needs to be pointed at an existing winamp settings folder (usually %appdata%\winamp) & as long as it's in the appropriate format then it should work.

I've only really tested the import action with copies of the local library from 5.63 to 5.666 specifically though I was given a set of main.dat/main.idx files last year from newer revision & my local library plug-in was able to import them without issue. If it's from a much older local library instance then it's most likely the layout of the columns might not be in the order that I'm expecting which would then prevent the import from seeing all of the data.

If needed you can message me a copy of the existing main.dat/main.idx from the winamp install you're trying to import so I can then check them out & if needed fix my importer &/or generate an appropriate copy of the library.dat/.idx files wacup uses for you to use with it.
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